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Take the ball. Pass the ball.
Take the ball. Pass the ball.

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Take the ball. Pass the ball.
Take the ball. Pass the ball.

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And I don't care where you're from.

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I don't care.

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If you tell me that you love football,

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and you don't love Barcelona,
you have a problem.

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If there's a game on TV,

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any team in the world,
if Barcelona are playing,

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I'd pick watching Barcelona all day long.

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I'd say 2011 was the best
brand of football I've seen.

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Barça re-established themselves

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as the most admired team in Europe.

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Not because we won ...

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but because of the style in which we won.

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There have been three special
eras in football history.

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First, Cruyff's Ajax,

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Sacchi's AC Milan,
a project that I continued.

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And then came Guardiola,

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and he created something beautiful.

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To play against Barcelona at that time,

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you just knew you had a bigger
chance to lose than to win.

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That Barcelona was just, you know,
eating everything on the table.

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It's one of the best ever performances
in a Champions League final,

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and to do it against
Manchester United was incredible.

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We really enjoyed ourselves that day.

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I mean, they were special.

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They were as good as I've came up against ...

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by quite some margin.

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And they were just too good.

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I remember Sir Alex saying
that he'd never lost like that before,

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where he felt ...

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that he couldn't do anything.

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No one's given us a hiding like that,
so it's a great moment for them.

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They deserve it because
they play the right way.

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They stuck at it, they kept
passing, they kept passing.

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They might have lost one or two,
but they kept passing it.

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And all of a sudden,
they make that extra pass,

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and the spaces are bigger,
it's harder to close down,

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and you lose your little bit of shape,
and that's when they take control.

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As a performance, it was ...

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It was as good as I've seen.

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What struck me about them really
was the patience of the wide men,

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to stay so high and so wide
and keep making them runs,

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and probably hardly ever getting the ball.

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They both got the goal,
but just the patience ...

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to stay in that position and hold us,
pin our fullbacks back, pin them back.

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And then obviously
you've got Messi to drop back,

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making it four v three.

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Outnumbering the opponent was
the basis of our whole strategy.

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Messi dropped into midfield to give
us that numerical advantage.

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And he also scored goals,
which gave us an advantage

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over every team we played.

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I'll show you how we did it.

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Here's the Manchester United defense.

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They never closed down
the player in the hole.

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They had two defensive midfielders,

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a number ten, Rooney,
who didn't defend very much,

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and a striker.

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For this goal, we were three against two.

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Iniesta plays the ball
across the line to Messi,

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and Messi attacks the defense.

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We started really well
but then they equalized,

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and that gave us a scare,
which is normal in a final.

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But we managed to take control
and when we went 3-1 up,

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we felt much more relaxed.

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Pep gave us a team talk
in the Wembley dressing room.

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I remember the room was
very dark, and he said,

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"I told you that if you got me
this far, I'd win you the final,

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"and I'm going to make sure you win it."

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If Pep said to jump off the third
tier of Camp Nou, I'd jump.

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There must be a good reason for it.

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And that's what I loved about him.

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He'd say things, and we'd realize ...

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that his words were never just words,

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and that convinces you that what you're doing ...

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is going to get results.

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It's unreal the way he used to tell us something,

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"That's what we're going to do.
Do it. It will work."

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And it will happen.

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It really will happen, just like that.

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That day was the crowning moment ...

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of everything we'd achieved since 2008.

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It was the crowning moment of our reign,

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the reign of a team adored by its supporters,

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and also by everyone who loves football.

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For Barça to win the Champions League ...

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in that style at Wembley,

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was the perfect end to a
brutally draining season.

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The rivalry between them and
Madrid had never been nastier.

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And the relationship between Mourinho
and Guardiola was beyond tense.

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Getting out of hand, some would say.

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I think it escalated into
something more than just football.

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I mean, I don't know whether there's
any rivalry between them personally,

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but it looked that way.

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Let's not forget where this comes from.

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In 2010, Barcelona are on their way
to the Champions League final.

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The Champions League final
is at Real Madrid's stadium.

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I think we've all forgotten
how much of a trauma this was in Madrid.

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They're terrified of this prospect.

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What happens ?

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Mourinho happens.

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Mourinho beats Barcelona
and celebrates it like mad.

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And he's just passed his
audition for Real Madrid.

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It was difficult for Mourinho at Madrid ...

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because he probably arrives
when Barcelona are at their best.

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And I doubt that any other manager ...

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would have found a solution
for Madrid at the time.

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I think that he arrived to Madrid,
to a really big club,

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but he got frustrated after the 5-0,

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because we beat them 5-0
at Camp Nou in his first year.

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In the 5-0, they didn't have a hope.

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That was the best game ...

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I played in at Barça.

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I think that he just had
a reflection and said,

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"Listen, if we want to beat this team,
we cannot beat them playing football.

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We have to beat them in
trying to find another way."

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And they bring football outside of the pitch,

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like in every press conference,
in every interview,

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trying to fight in every game.

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I have absolutely no doubt
that Mourinho's role at Real Madrid

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was to "knock Barcelona
off their fucking perch",

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to use Ferguson's words.

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Mourinho's not stupid.
Mourinho's a great competitor.

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And you have to respect winners.

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But when winners start
losing and feel powerless,

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you better watch out ...

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because it's bound to kick off.

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Playing four Clásicos
in such a short period ...

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brought the tension to boiling point.

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It was tough because most
of us were Spain teammates,

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and the tensions spilled out onto the pitch.

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I found it all very tough indeed.

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We all lost our heads a bit.

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The games should have been
much more attractive,

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much better to watch,
and without so much aggression,

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but when you're competing
you get swept up in it,

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and the tension caused
constant fighting on the pitch.

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The day I remember that
they won the Cup in extra time,

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and Cristiano scored.

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We were a much better team
than them, but they won,

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and for us, it was like, "Whoa !"

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They had that moment where
they made us doubt ourselves

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because it was a really difficult moment.

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We thought we were the better
team and created more,

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but because of a marginal offside call,

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we ended up losing the cup final.

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And when you lose,

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not only do you feel angry,
but also doubts start to creep in.

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What we got on the pitch ...

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was a game where it really
could have gone either way.

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There's a goal from Pedro
ruled offside correctly,

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but, as Guardiola pointed out,
very fine the margin,

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which gave Mourinho the chance to say

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Guardiola was complaining about right decisions.

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He wasn't. He was pointing out
the margins were so fine ...

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that it could have gone the other way.

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After what Pep said the other day,

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we've entered into a new era.

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There's now a new group of managers
with just one member, him,

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a group that criticizes a referee
for getting decisions right.

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It's something nobody's ever
seen or heard of before.

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Mourinho was so provocative ...

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that even people at Barça
wanted a reaction from Guardiola ...

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because Mourinho was constantly
trying to pick a fight with Guardiola ...

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and Barça in general.

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That day at lunch we listened ...

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to the Real Madrid manager,

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and I noticed something change in Pep.

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I had a feeling that Pep
would do something uncharacteristic,

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and I think others felt it too,
because after training ...

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the director of football
came to the dressing room,

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which never happens.

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And I remember Zubizarreta said,
"Keep calm, Pep."

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And Pep told him he'd stay
calm and wouldn't react.

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But Pep was lying.

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I was in the press conference that day,
and we're sitting in the press room,

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and there's this moment
where everyone just goes,

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"Did he really say that ?

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Bloody hell !"

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Yes ? Yes.

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Pep Guardiola, good evening everyone.

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Mr. Mourinho addressed me by
first name, so I'll do the same.

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He called me Pep, so I'll call him José.

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I don't know which camera
belongs to Mr. José,

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probably all of them.

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Tomorrow at 20.45,
our teams go head-to-head on the pitch,

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but off the pitch, he's already won.

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He's won all year long
and he probably always will.

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I award him a Champions League
trophy for victories in the press room.

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In this room, he's the fucking boss,
the fucking chief.

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He knows it all and I don't even
want to try and compete with him.

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I only want to remind him we
worked together for four years.

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We were in the team hotel
watching that press conference.

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He gave us one more incentive
to go out and give 100%.

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When Guardiola returned,
we all started applauding him,

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and he just said, "That's enough.
Time to focus on the match."

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It really surprised us ...

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because nothing like that
had ever happened, but ...

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a line had been crossed.

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It was precisely the boost
we needed at that moment.

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Clásicos are already extremely tense,
but this one was worse.

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Doubts and fears were creeping into my mind.

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I'd known for over a month
that I needed surgery ...

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but we hadn't told anyone.

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It's impossible to keep
secrets in a dressing room.

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Everything always gets leaked.

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So I only told a couple
of my teammates the truth.

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When you go to a match feeling confident,

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everything is much easier,

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but I had a voice in my head
telling me to be careful,

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and that my knee could collapse at any moment.

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I had a big bit of cartilage
floating about inside.

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I could have easily collapsed

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when one of their players was running at me.

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I was very nervous.

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This was the moment we'd
either go down in history

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or be remembered as a good side
but not one of the greats.

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That's what was at stake
in the semi-finals against Madrid.

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Even though you know
that you are a better team,

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you always have that doubt,
and I remember Pep said to us,

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"We are a much better team.

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I will bring you to the final
of the Champions League."

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And it was like this.

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They were very well-organized,

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so it wasn't easy to create goal-scoring chances.

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And then Leo picked up the ball in midfield,

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and started that slalom run.

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It's just natural ability.
That's why he's the best in the world.

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Only Messi can do that.

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That goal is just incredible.

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Busi gives him the ball
and he skips past three or four,

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and then he scores with his right foot.

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It's one of the best
goals in football history.

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My assist practically put
the goal on a plate for him.

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No. The truth is ...

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we all know that the more
Leo is on the ball ...

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the better it is for all of us.

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You have a Madrid team
that's extremely defensive,

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with Pepe in the middle of midfield.

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A Madrid team that is very aggressive,
that is playing for nil-nil.

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Mourinho's argument has always been ...

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that until Pepe is sent off,
Madrid were succeeding in that.

243
00:19:48,876 --> 00:19:52,396
We will never know if Messi
would have scored his two goals ...

244
00:19:52,517 --> 00:19:54,557
without that sending off.

245
00:19:55,876 --> 00:19:58,036
At that moment, the red card
made absolutely no difference.

246
00:19:58,156 --> 00:19:59,516
Messi's unstoppable.

247
00:19:59,637 --> 00:20:03,317
It's natural talent that's only
given to the chosen ones.

248
00:20:03,435 --> 00:20:07,435
Maybe in 20 or 30 years,
there'll be another one,

249
00:20:07,556 --> 00:20:09,476
but right now it's Messi.

250
00:20:09,597 --> 00:20:13,917
I was in the room exactly a year
later when Pierluigi Collina,

251
00:20:14,035 --> 00:20:16,475
in his refereeing tutorial to the Spain squad,

252
00:20:16,595 --> 00:20:18,715
uses that Pepe incident

253
00:20:18,836 --> 00:20:22,796
to show them how the laws of the game
would be interpreted during Euro 2012.

254
00:20:22,916 --> 00:20:25,156
And the instant it comes up on the screen,

255
00:20:25,276 --> 00:20:28,076
the Spain squad is split
right down the middle again ...

256
00:20:28,196 --> 00:20:32,716
with Madrid players and Barça players
drowning him out, shouting at each other ...

257
00:20:32,836 --> 00:20:36,076
about whether it is or
isn't a red card offence.

258
00:20:39,914 --> 00:20:43,074
I told Collina, "Show something else !
That's not a good example to show us !"

259
00:20:44,914 --> 00:20:47,994
Yeah. Some of them still
said it wasn't a red card.

260
00:20:48,115 --> 00:20:50,075
And that Pepe didn't touch him.

261
00:20:50,835 --> 00:20:51,915
Incredible !

262
00:20:52,034 --> 00:20:53,914
I'm telling you it was a red card.

263
00:20:54,635 --> 00:20:56,275
They can say what they want.

264
00:20:56,395 --> 00:20:59,555
Fans want to see their team play well.

265
00:20:59,674 --> 00:21:02,394
They don't want a team that constantly fouls ...

266
00:21:02,514 --> 00:21:06,394
or defending with everyone behind the ball.

267
00:21:06,914 --> 00:21:10,194
But in the end, football always wins.

268
00:21:12,514 --> 00:21:14,754
After the second leg at the Camp Nou,

269
00:21:14,874 --> 00:21:18,474
we stayed on the pitch
celebrating for ten or 15 minutes,

270
00:21:19,035 --> 00:21:21,315
and we still had to play
the Champions League final.

271
00:21:21,435 --> 00:21:26,755
But with all due respect
to Manchester United,

272
00:21:26,874 --> 00:21:31,274
our biggest test that year
was beating Madrid in the semi-final.

273
00:21:35,833 --> 00:21:38,953
So they've beaten Real Madrid
in the semi-finals.

274
00:21:39,075 --> 00:21:42,955
They then dismantle Manchester United
in the Champions League final.

275
00:21:43,073 --> 00:21:45,793
And the instant outpouring of superlatives

276
00:21:45,913 --> 00:21:49,233
from all-time greats of the game
all around the world,

277
00:21:50,234 --> 00:21:52,434
I think, objectively marks this

278
00:21:52,553 --> 00:21:56,433
as the high point of
European club football. Ever.

279
00:21:57,354 --> 00:22:01,234
But the fact that Éric Abidal plays and wins,

280
00:22:01,352 --> 00:22:04,392
having already just beaten cancer

281
00:22:04,514 --> 00:22:08,914
turns this from a great sporting
story into a great human drama.

282
00:22:10,473 --> 00:22:12,273
That day wasn't about lifting
the Champions League trophy,

283
00:22:12,393 --> 00:22:15,073
we should have been lifting Abi.

284
00:22:15,873 --> 00:22:18,873
That was the real triumph.

285
00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:23,393
He was one of the great
characters in the dressing room ...

286
00:22:23,512 --> 00:22:25,872
and everybody loved him.

287
00:22:25,993 --> 00:22:27,513
Abidal !

288
00:22:31,792 --> 00:22:35,712
I remember two or three days
after we heard about the cancer,

289
00:22:35,833 --> 00:22:38,833
Abi came to see us.

290
00:22:38,952 --> 00:22:41,432
And he was the one who cheered us up.

291
00:22:41,552 --> 00:22:46,152
One of my teammates died
when I was at Sevilla,

292
00:22:46,272 --> 00:22:51,912
and I thought,
"I can't let this happen again.

293
00:22:52,913 --> 00:22:54,633
Not another one, please."

294
00:22:54,754 --> 00:22:58,594
The first time I wasn't able to help,
but this time, I could.

295
00:22:58,712 --> 00:23:03,272
And if there was a chance to save his life,

296
00:23:03,872 --> 00:23:06,192
my career was the last thing on my mind.

297
00:23:07,713 --> 00:23:12,153
Dani came to see me and said,
"Look Abi, we have the same blood type.

298
00:23:13,232 --> 00:23:14,992
I'm going to give you part of my liver."

299
00:23:15,112 --> 00:23:22,072
Everyone saw Dani in a
different light after that.

300
00:23:23,512 --> 00:23:24,992
It was a private matter,
which only came out ...

301
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:26,510
because Abi told people.

302
00:23:26,631 --> 00:23:29,311
But I'd never have forgiven
myself if he'd died ...

303
00:23:29,431 --> 00:23:31,351
and I'd done nothing to help.

304
00:23:31,471 --> 00:23:33,311
I couldn't let that happen.

305
00:23:33,432 --> 00:23:38,992
In the end, they found another solution,
but I don't regret making the offer.

306
00:23:41,551 --> 00:23:42,911
Days after his operation,

307
00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:48,551
he was back in the dressing room
and working out in the gym.

308
00:23:48,672 --> 00:23:53,152
He wanted to be back with
the group as soon as possible.

309
00:23:53,272 --> 00:23:56,912
We had no doubt he'd make a full recovery.

310
00:23:58,150 --> 00:24:00,350
Did you think you had a good
chance of playing at Wembley ?

311
00:24:01,711 --> 00:24:05,791
No. I didn't even think
I had a ten percent chance.

312
00:24:07,231 --> 00:24:11,551
We needed to play the
strongest side possible,

313
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:15,070
and the strongest team
had to include Puyol.

314
00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:17,350
I wanted to play.

315
00:24:17,470 --> 00:24:20,910
I always wanted to play,
but I was in a worse state than Abidal.

316
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:23,909
And the most important thing was winning.

317
00:24:24,671 --> 00:24:27,271
The boss did something
he'd never done before,

318
00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:31,390
He announced the starting line-up
in the dressing room at Wembley ...

319
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:36,150
just an hour before the game
in the Champions League Final.

320
00:24:38,629 --> 00:24:40,229
I was shitting myself,

321
00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:42,750
thinking, "Bloody hell ! What's going on ?"

322
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:44,750
I wasn't fully match fit,

323
00:24:46,269 --> 00:24:51,229
but there was a fire inside me,
which gave me that extra drive.

324
00:24:51,349 --> 00:24:54,549
And when you're on the pitch,
you're just thinking, "Let's do this."

325
00:25:00,150 --> 00:25:04,430
The Abidal situation was a
huge emotional boost for all of us.

326
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:10,069
And he found strength
he didn't know he had ...

327
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:13,230
to play the way he did,
with the same composure as always.

328
00:25:13,868 --> 00:25:15,548
Abidal was an example to everyone.

329
00:25:18,629 --> 00:25:20,109
He showed such strength and determination ...

330
00:25:20,229 --> 00:25:22,349
and a will to overcome the cancer.

331
00:25:22,469 --> 00:25:24,989
And I decided that if we won that night,

332
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:29,150
Abidal should be the first to lift the cup.

333
00:25:29,268 --> 00:25:31,428
It really is an incredible moment.

334
00:25:31,548 --> 00:25:34,108
I've been lucky enough to lift it twice,

335
00:25:34,228 --> 00:25:36,828
and it's a difficult feeling to describe.

336
00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:39,390
It was Puyi's decision.

337
00:25:39,508 --> 00:25:43,668
He'd had the disappointment
of not starting the game,

338
00:25:43,789 --> 00:25:48,109
and he maybe didn't feel
like a key member of the team,

339
00:25:48,228 --> 00:25:53,148
but despite that,
he decided Abidal should lift the cup.

340
00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:57,428
He said to me, "It's got to be Abidal."

341
00:25:58,069 --> 00:26:02,549
And I said, "Bloody hell, you're right.
Abi should lift it."

342
00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:04,827
Without any doubt, that moment was ...

343
00:26:05,828 --> 00:26:07,948
the absolute highlight for us all.

344
00:26:08,069 --> 00:26:10,869
To watch Abidal lift the trophy
was very special.

345
00:26:16,468 --> 00:26:18,068
I was with Víctor Valdés,
close to Abidal.

346
00:26:18,189 --> 00:26:22,149
Watching Abidal lift the trophy
after the illness he'd been through,

347
00:26:22,268 --> 00:26:23,948
it still gives me goosebumps.

348
00:26:43,226 --> 00:26:44,786
I think it was the moment ...

349
00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:53,306
that showed the strength of our group.

350
00:26:54,587 --> 00:26:56,867
We were much more than just teammates.

351
00:26:56,987 --> 00:27:00,627
They say that Barça is more than a club.

352
00:27:00,746 --> 00:27:03,386
At that moment, it was more than a club.

353
00:27:13,706 --> 00:27:16,106
I think that the story of this club,

354
00:27:16,226 --> 00:27:21,026
obviously, you cannot understand
if you don't know the figure of Cruyff.

355
00:27:21,146 --> 00:27:24,946
Firstly as a player, he was one
of the best players in history.

356
00:27:25,067 --> 00:27:26,347
I didn't watch him play,

357
00:27:26,466 --> 00:27:29,826
but my dad always said
incredible things about him.

358
00:27:29,946 --> 00:27:32,106
He always says, "Messi and then Cruyff."

359
00:27:33,346 --> 00:27:35,146
When we were kids of ten or 11,
Cruyff signed for Barça

360
00:27:35,227 --> 00:27:40,147
and we copied his hairstyle,
the way he ran and played football.

361
00:27:40,266 --> 00:27:42,586
He inspired a revolution in 1973/74.

362
00:28:06,665 --> 00:28:11,745
He comes here with the advantage
of having a good reputation as a player.

363
00:28:11,865 --> 00:28:15,825
He has a philosophy which is contrary to many.

364
00:28:15,945 --> 00:28:17,705
He would prefer to fail with his ideas ...

365
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:20,306
than to succeed with the ideas of someone else.

366
00:28:20,426 --> 00:28:23,746
Players go for these kind of things,
for this kind of charisma.

367
00:28:26,265 --> 00:28:31,185
I played with him here for five years
and when we took over the team,

368
00:28:31,304 --> 00:28:35,664
we wanted to play a
different brand of football.

369
00:28:35,785 --> 00:28:40,905
And it caused shock waves around the world.

370
00:28:41,025 --> 00:28:43,825
Everyone played with a 4-4-2 formation,

371
00:28:43,945 --> 00:28:49,825
and we played with three defenders,
four midfielders and three in attack.

372
00:28:51,384 --> 00:28:53,304
People would say,
"They've only got three defenders !"

373
00:28:53,425 --> 00:28:55,185
It was a 3-4-3.

374
00:28:55,304 --> 00:28:58,384
They'd say, "It's madness.
We'll concede loads of goals !"

375
00:28:58,504 --> 00:29:01,344
But Johan preferred winning 6-5 to winning 1-0.

376
00:29:01,464 --> 00:29:05,384
I was really lucky because
I was six, seven, eight years old.

377
00:29:05,504 --> 00:29:08,664
I watched the first Copa de Europa,
European Championships.

378
00:29:08,784 --> 00:29:10,064
We were a really good team,

379
00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:13,783
always playing really well,
but we'd never won nothing important.

380
00:29:13,905 --> 00:29:16,665
But when he arrived,
he changed this mentality,

381
00:29:16,784 --> 00:29:19,704
and we started to win important
things and important titles.

382
00:29:46,302 --> 00:29:50,342
Cruyff is the most influential person
in the entire history of FC Barcelona.

383
00:29:50,743 --> 00:29:54,503
Our style of play is
the most important thing.

384
00:29:54,623 --> 00:29:56,223
Then come the players.

385
00:29:56,342 --> 00:29:59,582
But what really draws you in
and what sets the club apart ...

386
00:29:59,704 --> 00:30:02,624
is that Barça play a
unique brand of football.

387
00:30:04,262 --> 00:30:06,822
It all started a very long time
ago during Cruyff's spell at the club.

388
00:30:06,944 --> 00:30:11,744
Since then we've always
played the same way,

389
00:30:11,861 --> 00:30:16,501
holding onto possession,

390
00:30:17,463 --> 00:30:21,303
and passing in triangles,

391
00:30:21,422 --> 00:30:23,662
pressing the moment we lose the ball,

392
00:30:23,782 --> 00:30:29,062
staying close together so we can
recover possession and then keep it.

393
00:30:30,542 --> 00:30:31,582
Over time you realize,

394
00:30:31,701 --> 00:30:34,981
that it's because of Cruyff's influence
that by the age of 21,

395
00:30:35,103 --> 00:30:38,743
it felt normal to come off my line
and play further up the pitch,

396
00:30:38,861 --> 00:30:40,861
outside the penalty area.

397
00:30:40,982 --> 00:30:46,462
You come to realize that
all of us, me, Xavi, Iniesta ...

398
00:30:46,582 --> 00:30:51,342
We've all grown up adopting
Johan's philosophy.

399
00:30:51,462 --> 00:30:55,182
You know, it's an immense honor, or pride,

400
00:30:55,303 --> 00:30:56,943
to see that this is still going this way

401
00:30:57,061 --> 00:30:59,501
and my father is mentioned
like the architect.

402
00:31:05,342 --> 00:31:11,022
I think it's a process that began
in the 1970s with Laureano Ruiz.

403
00:31:11,142 --> 00:31:13,582
I experienced that here as a player.

404
00:31:14,181 --> 00:31:16,781
I was then a coach here when the
second big change took place ...

405
00:31:16,901 --> 00:31:18,781
when Johan Cruyff arrived as manager.

406
00:31:18,901 --> 00:31:20,301
He changed our mentality.

407
00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:26,020
He turned us into winners
and taught us to be confident,

408
00:31:26,141 --> 00:31:29,821
to want the ball and be creative,
and to enjoy ourselves.

409
00:31:29,941 --> 00:31:32,621
And our third big change was with Pep,

410
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:34,660
who took it to another level.

411
00:31:37,021 --> 00:31:40,061
Cruyff's arrival was key
because he imposed his ideas.

412
00:31:40,181 --> 00:31:45,941
His advantage was that the players ...

413
00:31:46,061 --> 00:31:49,061
already understood this style
because they'd worked under me.

414
00:31:49,181 --> 00:31:53,461
I invented the Rondo.

415
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:56,179
The ideal Rondo is four against two.

416
00:31:56,781 --> 00:32:00,701
You need to move constantly to find space.

417
00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:02,779
The player with the ball ...

418
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,540
must have the option
of a pass to his right,

419
00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:09,140
another to this left,
and another through the middle,

420
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:11,300
which I call the pass down the street.

421
00:32:11,421 --> 00:32:13,061
So in a match that becomes ...

422
00:32:13,179 --> 00:32:18,179
a sideways pass to feet or a through ball.

423
00:32:18,699 --> 00:32:21,699
So it's a very important tactical exercise.

424
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,340
Barcelona always train in tight spaces.

425
00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:30,060
If the ball doesn't stay by your foot,
it's gone, in training.

426
00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:33,460
That's why, after, when you drop
those guys on the big field,

427
00:32:34,019 --> 00:32:36,219
they play as if they were in tight places.

428
00:32:37,619 --> 00:32:41,339
If you pass, the player marking
you doesn't have time to catch you.

429
00:32:41,940 --> 00:32:44,940
When he gets to you, it's always too late.

430
00:32:45,059 --> 00:32:50,019
That's how you take control.

431
00:32:56,938 --> 00:32:59,018
The ball is fired at
you from every direction.

432
00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:03,658
And the light shows you
where to pass the ball.

433
00:33:03,778 --> 00:33:08,098
So if the light comes on over there,
I have to be in the right position.

434
00:33:08,219 --> 00:33:11,899
Left foot control, right foot pass.
As few touches as possible.

435
00:33:12,017 --> 00:33:13,337
It's the role of a midfielder.

436
00:33:25,619 --> 00:33:27,899
You're being marked and pressed.

437
00:33:28,019 --> 00:33:30,219
You have to get your head up
and find the solution.

438
00:33:30,738 --> 00:33:33,098
I learned all of that
from the age of 11 or 12 ...

439
00:33:33,538 --> 00:33:39,778
because I had fantastic coaches at Barça
like Joan Vilà and Albert Benaiges.

440
00:33:40,898 --> 00:33:42,858
My son plays for the youth team,

441
00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:45,979
and you get to realize as a parent,
as well,

442
00:33:46,099 --> 00:33:47,659
what the club teaches.

443
00:33:47,777 --> 00:33:51,857
It's not only about how they play
and how successful that you can be.

444
00:33:51,977 --> 00:33:55,337
It's how you conduct yourself,
how to be a Barça player,

445
00:33:55,457 --> 00:33:59,977
how to live like a Barça player,
how to respect what it means.

446
00:34:02,017 --> 00:34:05,457
Having well brought up, polite kids,
with good values ...

447
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:07,537
makes everything much easier.

448
00:34:07,656 --> 00:34:11,056
Just look at the squad
we've got at the moment.

449
00:34:11,178 --> 00:34:12,978
They're all exceptional people.

450
00:34:14,817 --> 00:34:19,737
We were lucky to have a generation
of players who came from La Masia,

451
00:34:19,857 --> 00:34:25,857
like Xavi, Iniesta, Piqué, Puyol,
Valdés, Pedro, Leo, Busquets.

452
00:34:25,976 --> 00:34:28,576
They all achieved huge
success in the first team.

453
00:34:29,737 --> 00:34:35,217
Tell me a team, apart maybe from Ajax,
that dominated world football ...

454
00:34:35,336 --> 00:34:40,296
having that amount of youngsters
from the academy in their team.

455
00:34:40,417 --> 00:34:43,457
There's a reason why youth
players at Barcelona ...

456
00:34:43,575 --> 00:34:46,655
are the ones who best adjust
to the first team at Barcelona.

457
00:34:46,777 --> 00:34:48,097
It's not a coincidence.

458
00:34:48,216 --> 00:34:51,056
It's not because they work
with special machines ...

459
00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:52,576
that no other club has.

460
00:34:52,696 --> 00:34:55,096
It has to do with the way
they're brought up,

461
00:34:55,216 --> 00:34:57,056
the values, their football values.

462
00:34:57,177 --> 00:35:00,737
What is the real essence of our football ?

463
00:35:00,856 --> 00:35:02,776
Is it the result or is it how we play ?

464
00:35:02,896 --> 00:35:04,056
It's how we play.

465
00:35:04,175 --> 00:35:07,135
And then, if you do that good,
the results will come.

466
00:35:07,257 --> 00:35:08,857
We came here to play football.

467
00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:14,096
People realized that we were
different and that we had talent.

468
00:35:14,215 --> 00:35:17,615
We were given the chance
to develop from junior level ...

469
00:35:17,737 --> 00:35:19,377
through to the first team.

470
00:35:19,496 --> 00:35:22,456
It's a different way
of understanding football,

471
00:35:22,576 --> 00:35:27,256
which gives you a better chance of success.

472
00:35:28,295 --> 00:35:30,335
When I joined Barcelona,

473
00:35:30,456 --> 00:35:31,536
the media asked me ...

474
00:35:31,655 --> 00:35:34,295
which player had surprised me most,

475
00:35:34,415 --> 00:35:36,935
and I said, Andrés Iniesta,

476
00:35:37,055 --> 00:35:39,175
which surprised them ...

477
00:35:39,654 --> 00:35:44,494
because they all wanted me
to say Messi or Ronaldinho.

478
00:35:44,615 --> 00:35:50,695
But the player who makes
difficult things look easy is Andrés.

479
00:35:50,815 --> 00:35:53,295
I'd want Andrés and Xavi ...

480
00:35:55,014 --> 00:35:59,734
in my team until the day they retire.

481
00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:05,694
Barça's style of football is
different to any team in the world.

482
00:36:05,815 --> 00:36:11,615
At Barça, there is a very
specific way you have to play.

483
00:36:11,735 --> 00:36:15,975
You can't just boot the ball clear.

484
00:36:16,095 --> 00:36:22,455
Defenders have to control the ball,
dribble and make the right pass.

485
00:36:22,574 --> 00:36:23,734
It's not easy.

486
00:36:23,854 --> 00:36:27,094
In the Premier League or at Real Madrid,
you clear the ball.

487
00:36:27,214 --> 00:36:29,734
And that isn't a problem at most other clubs.

488
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:33,494
But at Barça that's not enough.
You have to do a lot more.

489
00:36:35,855 --> 00:36:37,455
It's a unique philosophy.

490
00:36:39,055 --> 00:36:44,535
And that's why it's so
difficult for new players ...

491
00:36:44,654 --> 00:36:46,974
to adapt to our style of play.

492
00:36:47,094 --> 00:36:52,374
It might look easy but it's something
we've been practicing for years.

493
00:36:52,493 --> 00:36:58,053
Most of us have been playing
this way since we were kids.

494
00:36:58,173 --> 00:37:01,573
Playing for Barça isn't easy.

495
00:37:01,694 --> 00:37:04,214
You see all these players
that are here for a long time.

496
00:37:04,294 --> 00:37:07,894
They come through the youth system
and walk into the first team,

497
00:37:08,012 --> 00:37:10,652
and it's as if they've been there
for many, many years.

498
00:37:10,773 --> 00:37:12,013
Coming here wasn't so easy

499
00:37:12,134 --> 00:37:14,854
because there are certain
elements of the game ...

500
00:37:14,974 --> 00:37:17,254
that you haven't been taught.

501
00:37:17,813 --> 00:37:19,733
You see players ...

502
00:37:19,853 --> 00:37:24,213
I could tell you a few
names but I'm not allowed.

503
00:37:24,334 --> 00:37:28,454
But world-class, spectacular footballers,

504
00:37:28,572 --> 00:37:30,412
who were completely lost.

505
00:37:30,533 --> 00:37:32,013
They ended up in hysterics.

506
00:37:32,134 --> 00:37:35,054
It was more the style of play
that I had to adapt to.

507
00:37:35,173 --> 00:37:41,013
Staying on the line to make sure
that you can free Andrés,

508
00:37:41,132 --> 00:37:42,492
make the run in behind,

509
00:37:42,613 --> 00:37:45,813
knowing that nine times
or eight times out of ten,

510
00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:47,332
you will not get that ball.

511
00:37:47,453 --> 00:37:50,493
But if you don't make the run,
Andrés doesn't get the ball.

512
00:37:56,332 --> 00:38:00,692
My first move when Abidal had the ball
and he's about to control it,

513
00:38:00,813 --> 00:38:02,653
I always have to ask for the ball in behind.

514
00:38:03,771 --> 00:38:06,011
Every single time. It's a dummy run.

515
00:38:07,773 --> 00:38:13,253
Now Andrés gets the ball,
Sam now makes a run for Andrés,

516
00:38:13,372 --> 00:38:15,132
so Andrés can play him there,

517
00:38:15,252 --> 00:38:18,732
Andrés can play me as I come back
from an offside position,

518
00:38:19,132 --> 00:38:22,932
Or, if not, third choice,
Andrés skills you by his dribble.

519
00:38:23,052 --> 00:38:25,332
You have a guy dropping, a guy running

520
00:38:25,452 --> 00:38:27,612
and a guy with the ball
running at you, so,

521
00:38:27,733 --> 00:38:29,933
by the time you stop
to realize what's happening,

522
00:38:30,050 --> 00:38:31,530
you're already in trouble.

523
00:38:36,092 --> 00:38:39,612
Some guys managed to get it in the end
like Thierry Henry and Abidal,

524
00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:41,250
who both struggled at the start.

525
00:38:41,371 --> 00:38:45,691
But some other really talented
players just didn't make it.

526
00:38:46,971 --> 00:38:48,451
I missed my chance.

527
00:38:48,571 --> 00:38:53,811
I was full of this fire,
of this desire to, you know, to play

528
00:38:53,931 --> 00:38:55,651
and sometimes it was like ...

529
00:38:55,772 --> 00:39:00,252
I mean, I just wanted to
immediately show what I can.

530
00:39:00,370 --> 00:39:03,370
And sometimes it was against me.

531
00:39:05,692 --> 00:39:07,572
Barça is a hard team to play for,
particularly at center-back.

532
00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:11,490
If you make a couple of early mistakes,
the fans get on your back,

533
00:39:11,611 --> 00:39:14,731
and the pressure really builds.

534
00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:20,890
But Chygrynskiy's qualities
were perfect for Barça.

535
00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:28,010
To turn the crowd around is not easy,
especially at Barcelona.

536
00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:33,370
I think it was Xavi who said,
"This is a very special place.

537
00:39:33,489 --> 00:39:35,809
I've played here for many years,

538
00:39:35,929 --> 00:39:38,769
but believe me,
if I play one or two games not good,

539
00:39:39,411 --> 00:39:42,291
these people can destroy me."

540
00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:48,010
I got it as a joke
but then I felt that it ...

541
00:39:48,130 --> 00:39:51,450
That it was not.

542
00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:56,410
Despite being a home-grown player,
I've suffered things

543
00:39:56,531 --> 00:39:57,651
that crossed the line.

544
00:39:57,770 --> 00:40:00,610
In 2003, I was the "Cancer of Barça."

545
00:40:00,729 --> 00:40:04,129
In 2014, I was "old and good for nothing."

546
00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:06,050
It's a roller coaster.

547
00:40:06,169 --> 00:40:10,529
Barça is the most difficult club in the world.

548
00:40:10,649 --> 00:40:11,689
No doubt about it.

549
00:40:11,810 --> 00:40:16,130
Imagine for a new signing.
It must be twice as difficult.

550
00:40:16,249 --> 00:40:18,849
I felt this difference,
that I needed to learn

551
00:40:18,968 --> 00:40:21,048
this language of football,

552
00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:24,370
how to create space, how to defend,

553
00:40:24,490 --> 00:40:28,610
and all the things that the
players were already playing.

554
00:40:32,008 --> 00:40:33,888
We played a game against Osasuna ...

555
00:40:34,009 --> 00:40:38,889
and Osasuna were not defending well that area.

556
00:40:39,008 --> 00:40:41,248
The guy there was not tucking in well.

557
00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:46,370
So that day Chygrynskiy played
because he had a great left foot.

558
00:40:46,488 --> 00:40:48,848
He could ping the ball well
with his left and right foot.

559
00:40:48,968 --> 00:40:50,208
But an amazing left foot.

560
00:40:50,329 --> 00:40:53,609
We were going to always play
in the center back ...

561
00:40:53,729 --> 00:40:56,809
that was going to play across for Xavi.

562
00:40:56,928 --> 00:40:59,728
Whenever we were moving,
Xavi stayed in that zone.

563
00:41:00,649 --> 00:41:02,209
So that was the exit.

564
00:41:02,328 --> 00:41:03,888
But what was funny that day

565
00:41:04,008 --> 00:41:08,648
is that Chygrynskiy twice
played the ball long for Zlatan.

566
00:41:08,768 --> 00:41:09,768
And it was on.

567
00:41:09,887 --> 00:41:12,207
Zlatan nearly went one v one with the keeper.

568
00:41:14,767 --> 00:41:16,727
Pep took him off at half-time ...

569
00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:21,528
because he didn't respect the pattern.

570
00:41:21,648 --> 00:41:26,728
That's the way he studied that team
and that's the way he asked us to play.

571
00:41:26,848 --> 00:41:31,328
The vocabulary of Guardiola or my father
is building up from behind,

572
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:32,447
possession,

573
00:41:33,408 --> 00:41:36,928
the speed of the ball is more important
than the speed of the legs,

574
00:41:37,527 --> 00:41:41,167
always play attractive football
to keep your fans happy.

575
00:41:41,487 --> 00:41:43,727
I mean, there are so many similarities.

576
00:41:43,848 --> 00:41:45,608
When you play for Barcelona

577
00:41:45,726 --> 00:41:47,366
and especially after Guardiola came,

578
00:41:47,487 --> 00:41:51,687
that's where you really learn
how to play the Barcelona way.

579
00:41:51,807 --> 00:41:56,607
It's 11, not just the strikers
or not just the midfielders.

580
00:41:56,728 --> 00:42:00,528
The 11 players have to participate
to create the chance.

581
00:42:00,646 --> 00:42:05,686
Basically, what we want to do
is try to put the ball to the strikers ...

582
00:42:05,806 --> 00:42:08,966
with a really good pass,
so that they can have one on one.

583
00:42:09,087 --> 00:42:12,287
But obviously if you pass them a long ball ...

584
00:42:12,407 --> 00:42:15,767
that's not really easy to control,

585
00:42:15,886 --> 00:42:18,606
the striker will not do his job.

586
00:42:18,725 --> 00:42:22,645
It's all about starting from the back,
to the strikers.

587
00:42:25,487 --> 00:42:27,487
Pep took risks all over the pitch.

588
00:42:27,606 --> 00:42:33,046
I think he made two great
innovations as our coach,

589
00:42:33,606 --> 00:42:35,886
One was pressing after losing the ball

590
00:42:36,325 --> 00:42:39,525
and the other was playing out from the back.

591
00:42:44,766 --> 00:42:46,846
I remember my first conversation
with Guardiola as coach.

592
00:42:46,967 --> 00:42:49,527
It was in his office at the Camp Nou.

593
00:42:50,086 --> 00:42:54,046
He had a tactics board
with two small magnets ...

594
00:42:54,165 --> 00:42:58,805
either side of the goal,
just outside of the box.

595
00:42:58,925 --> 00:43:01,765
He said, "Do you know
which players these two are ?"

596
00:43:02,406 --> 00:43:04,606
I said, "Nope."

597
00:43:04,726 --> 00:43:07,206
And he said,
"These are your center-backs."

598
00:43:09,045 --> 00:43:12,205
I had no idea what he was talking about.
It sounded Chinese.

599
00:43:12,326 --> 00:43:18,566
And he said, "When you've got the ball,
this is where I want them to be."

600
00:43:20,165 --> 00:43:22,725
I thought he was crazy.

601
00:43:23,485 --> 00:43:29,365
And then he said, "You'll pass to them,
and from there we'll build the play."

602
00:43:29,484 --> 00:43:33,004
I still thought he was completely mad,

603
00:43:33,125 --> 00:43:36,885
but given that I'm a bit crazy myself,
I felt in tune with him.

604
00:43:37,005 --> 00:43:39,645
So I told him the defenders
would have to be brave ...

605
00:43:39,764 --> 00:43:42,764
and want the ball.

606
00:43:42,886 --> 00:43:46,126
And Pep said, "Don't worry, that's my job.

607
00:43:46,245 --> 00:43:47,765
I'll make sure they want it."

608
00:43:48,245 --> 00:43:49,525
That's how it started.

609
00:43:52,084 --> 00:43:58,044
Both Pep and Tito took
this idea one step further.

610
00:43:58,685 --> 00:44:04,565
They told us not to worry ...

611
00:44:04,684 --> 00:44:06,204
because if we made a mistake,

612
00:44:06,324 --> 00:44:08,164
they would take responsibility.

613
00:44:08,285 --> 00:44:10,725
All they asked was that we play
the ball out from the back ...

614
00:44:10,845 --> 00:44:17,365
because that was the way
Barça had to play football.

615
00:44:20,243 --> 00:44:23,683
He would show us how he wanted us
to play the ball out from the back.

616
00:44:23,804 --> 00:44:25,764
He said that by doing this, we'd score.

617
00:44:25,882 --> 00:44:28,842
So why would I stop playing that
Way if I made a mistake ?

618
00:44:28,964 --> 00:44:32,524
We both knew that it was risky.

619
00:44:32,644 --> 00:44:36,444
But he would say,
"Don't worry if you make a mistake.

620
00:44:36,964 --> 00:44:39,444
Just keep playing exactly the same way."

621
00:44:59,364 --> 00:45:02,444
We believe it's about
much more than just winning.

622
00:45:02,563 --> 00:45:05,403
The message isn't "win, win, win".

623
00:45:05,523 --> 00:45:07,283
Winning is a result of how you play.

624
00:45:07,403 --> 00:45:09,363
The philosophy is the most important thing.

625
00:45:09,843 --> 00:45:13,003
You know you've done something
when people just want to watch you play.

626
00:45:13,083 --> 00:45:14,083
Not win.

627
00:45:14,883 --> 00:45:18,883
When you talk about Barcelona,
you're talking about the way they play,

628
00:45:19,001 --> 00:45:20,561
the beauty of the game.

629
00:45:27,682 --> 00:45:31,402
You go home and you go like,
"You should watch the second goal ...

630
00:45:31,522 --> 00:45:34,042
and, by the way, they won."

631
00:45:45,522 --> 00:45:49,402
There was a sign on the door
of the coaches' room, which said,

632
00:45:49,521 --> 00:45:55,881
"If you're offering us a youth player
who's less than 1.8 meters tall,

633
00:45:56,002 --> 00:45:57,282
turn around and go home."

634
00:45:57,401 --> 00:46:01,761
It was Cruyff who changed that,
when he returned as manager.

635
00:46:01,881 --> 00:46:08,041
He believed that talent was the key
and height was irrelevant.

636
00:46:11,881 --> 00:46:13,161
From then on, players were judged
only on their quality.

637
00:46:13,281 --> 00:46:17,081
Is he good or not ?
Regardless of their height.

638
00:46:17,201 --> 00:46:20,721
Look at Jordi, Xavi, Messi and Andrés.

639
00:46:20,842 --> 00:46:25,042
On top of each other they barely reach
normal height. They're all tiny !

640
00:46:26,601 --> 00:46:30,001
Small players have enormous
advantages over big players.

641
00:46:30,121 --> 00:46:33,121
They can start, stop and turn quicker.

642
00:46:33,242 --> 00:46:35,122
The best players are all small.

643
00:46:36,042 --> 00:46:38,482
Messi has given a lot of people,

644
00:46:38,602 --> 00:46:42,082
a lot of young football dreamers,
a whole new hope.

645
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,560
It's not about the 1 meter 80.

646
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,240
It's much more than that.

647
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,080
It's intelligence.

648
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,760
In the end,
if the brain is faster than the ball,

649
00:46:53,481 --> 00:46:54,601
you dominate.

650
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,279
One of my friends worked
in the youth academy,

651
00:47:06,921 --> 00:47:09,881
when Messi was 14 or 15.

652
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,240
I always asked about the kids,
which of them looked special,

653
00:47:14,361 --> 00:47:17,241
who was likely to make it
and reach the first team.

654
00:47:17,919 --> 00:47:20,679
He said to me,
"There's this kid from Argentina,

655
00:47:20,799 --> 00:47:24,279
and I've never seen anyone
with the talent he's got."

656
00:47:24,401 --> 00:47:28,081
When Messi started training with
us at the age of 16,

657
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,760
we all realized he was special.

658
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:03,679
I had a big network of scouts in South America.

659
00:48:03,798 --> 00:48:08,958
One of them told me there was a kid in Rosario.

660
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:13,519
He was only 12 years old but he was unique.

661
00:48:13,638 --> 00:48:18,318
Nowadays, clubs invest in youngsters,
but it didn't happen back then.

662
00:48:18,439 --> 00:48:23,359
It wasn't easy, but Charly Rexach helped
and we decided to bring him over.

663
00:48:24,078 --> 00:48:26,318
Nobody wanted to take a risk on me.

664
00:48:27,398 --> 00:48:31,478
It was a big gamble to sign
such a small kid from abroad,

665
00:48:31,598 --> 00:48:34,998
and bring him to Barcelona.

666
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:40,319
It was Charly Rexach who made it happen.

667
00:48:40,439 --> 00:48:44,639
He came to watch me play and told me
that Barça definitely wanted me.

668
00:48:45,399 --> 00:48:48,879
It was thanks to him and the coaches
who wanted to sign me,

669
00:48:48,998 --> 00:48:51,638
although there were some who didn't.

670
00:48:51,758 --> 00:48:58,118
But mainly it's thanks to Charly
that I signed for Barça.

671
00:48:59,877 --> 00:49:01,557
I've always said it was an honor
to have brought Messi to this club.

672
00:49:01,678 --> 00:49:04,278
My small part in Messi's arrival

673
00:49:04,398 --> 00:49:08,198
was that I kept nagging until we signed him.

674
00:49:08,598 --> 00:49:11,358
If you went to the board back then,

675
00:49:11,478 --> 00:49:15,158
and told them that we needed
to sign a 12-year-old kid,

676
00:49:15,276 --> 00:49:17,516
their first reaction was,

677
00:49:17,637 --> 00:49:20,517
"Let's talk again in eight years."

678
00:49:20,637 --> 00:49:22,597
But I said, "No. We have to sign him.

679
00:49:23,196 --> 00:49:28,116
He's very good,
and one day, he'll be incredible."

680
00:49:28,236 --> 00:49:31,076
That was my success. I insisted on it.

681
00:49:31,198 --> 00:49:36,318
Even back then, it was already obvious
that Messi was out of this world.

682
00:49:39,837 --> 00:49:42,557
So I told Rexach that I
needed something in writing.

683
00:49:42,676 --> 00:49:44,636
His parents had been here a month,

684
00:49:44,757 --> 00:49:49,597
and I kept reassuring them,
but there was no official agreement.

685
00:49:49,717 --> 00:49:52,197
We were at the Pompeia Tennis Club on Montjuic,

686
00:49:52,316 --> 00:49:58,116
and there were napkins on the table,
so Rexach took one and wrote,

687
00:49:58,236 --> 00:50:01,196
"I, Carles Rexach,
advisor to the president,

688
00:50:01,315 --> 00:50:05,355
confirm that Leo Messi has the
qualities to sign for FC Barcelona."

689
00:50:05,476 --> 00:50:07,196
He signed it and then I signed it.

690
00:50:07,317 --> 00:50:09,197
We still have the napkin stored in the bank ...

691
00:50:09,317 --> 00:50:14,117
because it's delicate
and it needs looking after.

692
00:50:15,436 --> 00:50:18,636
By signing the napkin,
I wanted to show Messi's family ...

693
00:50:18,755 --> 00:50:21,515
that I was committed to
signing him for FC Barcelona.

694
00:50:22,996 --> 00:50:26,236
I think Barcelona and Messi just ...
It was destined.

695
00:50:26,356 --> 00:50:28,236
It just had to be this way.

696
00:50:28,355 --> 00:50:31,235
He came to the best club
that he could have.

697
00:50:52,876 --> 00:50:54,716
It was difficult at first.

698
00:50:55,475 --> 00:51:00,075
I was very young and everything was new.

699
00:51:00,196 --> 00:51:04,236
I'd left behind family members,
friends, my country.

700
00:51:04,354 --> 00:51:10,634
It was tough to start with,
but I managed to settle in.

701
00:51:10,756 --> 00:51:13,196
Most of us knew
that a phenomenon was coming.

702
00:51:13,315 --> 00:51:15,635
But the Gamper tournament was the proof.

703
00:51:15,755 --> 00:51:16,915
It was the first night,

704
00:51:17,034 --> 00:51:18,834
of which there have been so many since,

705
00:51:18,955 --> 00:51:23,755
when 99,000 lucky people at
the Camp Nou simply paid homage ...

706
00:51:23,874 --> 00:51:26,914
to something more exciting, more uplifting ...

707
00:51:27,034 --> 00:51:28,914
than they'd ever witnessed before.

708
00:51:29,594 --> 00:51:33,194
I was there that night and
the effect was spine-tingling.

709
00:51:42,793 --> 00:51:44,393
It was a very special day,

710
00:51:44,514 --> 00:51:49,194
and I loved every minute.

711
00:51:49,913 --> 00:51:52,473
It was the Gamper tournament,

712
00:51:52,593 --> 00:51:58,113
and I was in the starting XI.

713
00:51:59,234 --> 00:52:03,994
It was a huge moment for me
because after that game,

714
00:52:04,114 --> 00:52:07,034
everything changed.

715
00:52:07,153 --> 00:52:10,553
That's where it all started.

716
00:52:12,953 --> 00:52:16,553
I remember telling Patrick
Vieira before that match ...

717
00:52:16,674 --> 00:52:21,954
to be very careful because he
was up against a young kid ...

718
00:52:22,074 --> 00:52:24,634
who would change history.

719
00:52:24,753 --> 00:52:29,193
One day, it would seem like every
player who came before Messi, even me,

720
00:52:29,314 --> 00:52:31,554
were playing a different sport.

721
00:52:32,953 --> 00:52:35,113
It was incredible what this kid was doing ...

722
00:52:35,233 --> 00:52:38,913
against the likes of Vieira,
a first team player at Juve.

723
00:52:39,554 --> 00:52:44,074
He was drifting past big,
physical players.

724
00:52:44,193 --> 00:52:46,433
Messi just did whatever he wanted.

725
00:52:46,552 --> 00:52:50,872
And Capello asked if
he could take him on loan.

726
00:52:59,352 --> 00:53:00,712
Capello's no fool !

727
00:53:01,953 --> 00:53:03,793
Initially, I didn't know
anything about Messi.

728
00:53:03,912 --> 00:53:08,112
Only that he was going to play.

729
00:53:08,233 --> 00:53:10,473
I saw that he was just a young kid,

730
00:53:10,592 --> 00:53:15,832
but when the game started,
he began doing incredible things.

731
00:53:15,952 --> 00:53:19,072
Rijkaard was the Barcelona coach back then.

732
00:53:20,152 --> 00:53:24,592
It was the Gamper trophy,
a friendly match.

733
00:53:24,711 --> 00:53:28,271
The referee wasn't that strict
and we could move about,

734
00:53:28,391 --> 00:53:30,631
so I walked over to Rijkaard,

735
00:53:30,752 --> 00:53:37,072
and asked if I could take Messi on loan.

736
00:53:37,191 --> 00:53:41,031
You weren't allowed as many
foreigners in your team back then.

737
00:53:41,152 --> 00:53:43,992
I said, "You've already got
three foreign players.

738
00:53:44,111 --> 00:53:46,231
There's no place for him".

739
00:53:46,352 --> 00:53:51,872
But Rijkaard said that they were
already looking for a solution,

740
00:53:51,991 --> 00:53:58,231
and Messi would be a regular
in the team very soon.

741
00:53:58,831 --> 00:53:59,831
It's just ...

742
00:54:01,791 --> 00:54:02,831
How do you describe it ?

743
00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:06,990
Basically everyone knew this guy is
going to be the best in the world.

744
00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:08,830
And there was no doubt about it.

745
00:54:33,911 --> 00:54:35,031
I knew about his goal scoring ability,

746
00:54:35,470 --> 00:54:39,070
and fortunately, Guardiola
put him in that false nine position.

747
00:54:39,191 --> 00:54:41,791
It meant that alongside
Eto'o and the other strikers,

748
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:46,030
he had more freedom in attack.

749
00:54:46,631 --> 00:54:52,631
That tactical change
was a huge benefit to him.

750
00:55:16,991 --> 00:55:19,511
It's very difficult to pick Leo's best goal.

751
00:55:19,630 --> 00:55:23,150
The one he scored against Getafe comes to mind.

752
00:55:24,109 --> 00:55:26,149
When you see what he produces day in day out,

753
00:55:26,268 --> 00:55:28,068
it's impossible to choose one goal.

754
00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:41,588
They were just flashes of Maradona against England.

755
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:44,910
And I knew at that time,

756
00:55:45,029 --> 00:55:48,869
right in the moment that I've witnessed
something incredible here.

757
00:55:48,988 --> 00:55:51,788
It's one of his great goals,
probably one of the greatest,

758
00:55:51,908 --> 00:55:54,788
but if you get a video of his goals,

759
00:55:55,948 --> 00:56:01,748
he's probably scored another 50 like it,
which makes him exceptional.

760
00:56:10,749 --> 00:56:16,469
One of my favorites is the goal
he scored against Arsenal.

761
00:56:16,908 --> 00:56:20,028
It was like watching someone on the PlayStation.

762
00:56:20,147 --> 00:56:26,707
He flicks it over Almunia
at the last second and then scores.

763
00:56:35,187 --> 00:56:36,787
I love it because of that skill.

764
00:56:36,908 --> 00:56:40,108
Any other player would smash
it into the net first time,

765
00:56:40,226 --> 00:56:45,506
but he had the composure
to flick the ball up and then finish.

766
00:56:45,629 --> 00:56:49,149
The best goal I've seen him score
was against Málaga at home ...

767
00:56:49,507 --> 00:56:51,787
because that defied logic what he did.

768
00:56:53,106 --> 00:56:55,986
Diagonal ball,
controlled the ball on his chest,

769
00:56:56,748 --> 00:56:58,348
he runs full speed.

770
00:57:00,067 --> 00:57:03,347
The first player goes,
the second player's just behind him.

771
00:57:05,267 --> 00:57:08,547
If he takes another step
that player will clear the ball.

772
00:57:08,668 --> 00:57:11,508
OK, if you stop the ball
on your left foot here,

773
00:57:12,787 --> 00:57:17,627
how do you go back with that same leg
to touch the ball in the air,

774
00:57:18,546 --> 00:57:20,546
to make sure that guy doesn't touch it ?

775
00:57:20,666 --> 00:57:22,106
Then he almost fell.

776
00:57:22,227 --> 00:57:25,147
He almost fell and smashed it
to first post, top corner.

777
00:57:26,225 --> 00:57:27,385
That's not normal.

778
00:57:33,066 --> 00:57:34,786
Regardless of the fact that he's Messi,
in training, he wants to win.

779
00:57:34,906 --> 00:57:38,906
He'll get annoyed
if he doesn't get the ball ...

780
00:57:39,027 --> 00:57:41,107
and angry if he's fouled.

781
00:57:41,226 --> 00:57:44,146
And that tells you a lot
about a champion like him.

782
00:57:44,267 --> 00:57:48,707
In training, if the boss
doesn't call a foul or whatever,

783
00:57:48,825 --> 00:57:53,025
he used to go and ask,
"It's not a foul ? OK."

784
00:57:53,145 --> 00:57:57,345
He used to go and get the ball,
run past everyone, score.

785
00:57:58,066 --> 00:57:59,546
Now you get the ball, you try to go,

786
00:57:59,667 --> 00:58:02,507
he runs after you,
gets the ball back, scores,

787
00:58:02,866 --> 00:58:07,306
until he gets in a normal
state again and he relaxes.

788
00:58:07,426 --> 00:58:09,026
Next thing you know you're 3-1 down.

789
00:58:09,425 --> 00:58:12,825
He's a player who's different from the rest.

790
00:58:13,425 --> 00:58:15,625
He's very talented and earns lots of money,

791
00:58:15,746 --> 00:58:21,266
but when you meet him
it's like he isn't a star at all.

792
00:58:24,704 --> 00:58:30,624
I've known him for ten or 12 years
and he's not the most outgoing person ...

793
00:58:30,745 --> 00:58:34,625
but he's just a normal, humble guy.

794
00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,504
He's very quiet,

795
00:58:36,625 --> 00:58:40,265
but when his feet do the talking,
he's unique.

796
00:58:40,385 --> 00:58:42,145
He's an absolute winner.

797
00:58:42,264 --> 00:58:46,624
He has the desire to always be
the best on the pitch,

798
00:58:46,744 --> 00:58:50,584
and that's why he became the best
player in the history of this game.

799
00:58:56,264 --> 00:59:00,904
I was lucky enough to play
against Pelé and Cruyff.

800
00:59:01,025 --> 00:59:02,265
I watched Maradona play.

801
00:59:02,384 --> 00:59:06,984
They have all made a big
difference in this sport.

802
00:59:07,104 --> 00:59:09,224
But nowadays there is no one like Leo Messi.

803
00:59:09,344 --> 00:59:12,904
He does things that other players
can't even think about doing.

804
00:59:15,825 --> 00:59:18,065
He does the impossible, the incredible.

805
00:59:18,185 --> 00:59:21,105
He moves at a different speed to everyone else.

806
00:59:22,383 --> 00:59:26,503
It's like the ball is glued to his
foot and he keeps showing it to you

807
00:59:26,624 --> 00:59:31,304
and just when you think you can get it,
it's already too late.

808
00:59:32,743 --> 00:59:39,663
It's difficult to talk about Leo
and put it into our words ...

809
00:59:39,784 --> 00:59:41,584
because he's not on our planet.

810
00:59:43,342 --> 00:59:45,822
In every game I'd be watching,
waiting to see what he would do

811
00:59:45,943 --> 00:59:48,863
because he's the player
who wins you every game.

812
00:59:49,543 --> 00:59:53,303
When he takes the ball,
something's going to happen.

813
00:59:56,864 --> 00:59:58,944
He's capable of starting
the move and finishing it off, as well.

814
01:00:01,062 --> 01:00:03,742
Normally, players can do one or the other,

815
01:00:06,182 --> 01:00:07,622
But he's different.

816
01:00:10,023 --> 01:00:11,583
He's better than you with
his right foot, left foot and head,

817
01:00:11,704 --> 01:00:13,584
at defending and attacking.

818
01:00:13,702 --> 01:00:14,782
He's faster,

819
01:00:16,624 --> 01:00:18,864
better at dribbling and passing.

820
01:00:26,461 --> 01:00:27,821
Goalkeeper ?

821
01:00:27,942 --> 01:00:30,662
Well, we haven't put him in goal yet.

822
01:00:30,782 --> 01:00:34,782
But watch out if he tries that too !

823
01:00:43,422 --> 01:00:46,342
The impact and importance
of Cruyff as a player,

824
01:00:46,461 --> 01:00:49,341
and then the Dream Team coach at Barça, huge.

825
01:00:49,461 --> 01:00:51,901
But Joan Laporta's devotion to the Dutchman ...

826
01:00:52,021 --> 01:00:53,741
meant that he stood for election,

827
01:00:53,861 --> 01:00:55,501
and once he won the presidency,

828
01:00:55,622 --> 01:00:58,582
he ushered in that golden era of all-time ...

829
01:00:59,221 --> 01:01:03,621
by handing the GPS to Cruyff,
about the football philosophy,

830
01:01:03,741 --> 01:01:06,501
and the appointment of the
right men to implement it.

831
01:01:06,941 --> 01:01:10,101
It's for those three things :
great player, brilliant coach,

832
01:01:10,223 --> 01:01:12,703
and the greatest ever professor,

833
01:01:12,822 --> 01:01:15,422
that Cruyff has become the most important man ...

834
01:01:15,542 --> 01:01:18,022
in the history of professional football.

835
01:01:18,702 --> 01:01:23,262
I think it was ... it was crucial,
the contribution of Cruyff.

836
01:01:23,382 --> 01:01:25,942
It wasn't like a day-to-day office job,

837
01:01:26,062 --> 01:01:30,622
but we knew that he was
providing ideas and support.

838
01:01:32,020 --> 01:01:34,580
He advised us on all
of our football decisions.

839
01:01:34,701 --> 01:01:37,901
Johan created and developed
a certain style of football,

840
01:01:38,022 --> 01:01:44,102
and Rijkaard contributed his own
personality, ideas and experience.

841
01:01:50,180 --> 01:01:51,340
People remember Pep's time in charge ...

842
01:01:51,461 --> 01:01:53,381
because it was a very successful era,

843
01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:57,221
but I'll never forget Frank's time at the club,

844
01:01:57,340 --> 01:01:59,700
which was also a very successful few years.

845
01:02:00,140 --> 01:02:05,100
During Madrid's Galáctico era,
they were winning everything,

846
01:02:05,220 --> 01:02:07,220
and it felt like we couldn't beat them.

847
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:09,700
But with Rijkaard, we put an end to that,

848
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:14,540
which for me personally
was a very proud moment.

849
01:02:25,019 --> 01:02:28,099
Barça was already a huge brand,

850
01:02:28,219 --> 01:02:32,259
but we were looking at the museum
and there was only one Champions League.

851
01:02:43,019 --> 01:02:45,979
If you watch the final,
I don't think we deserved to lose.

852
01:03:11,218 --> 01:03:13,338
After the births of my children,
that was the best night of my life.

853
01:03:13,459 --> 01:03:20,419
I honestly thought it would
be my last game for Barça ...

854
01:03:20,619 --> 01:03:23,299
because I'd had a really tough year.

855
01:03:23,419 --> 01:03:27,859
It was thanks to Frank
that I played that day.

856
01:03:27,978 --> 01:03:30,458
He was like a father to me.

857
01:03:30,579 --> 01:03:35,499
And in the end,
we lifted the European Cup together.

858
01:03:41,058 --> 01:03:43,178
After winning in Paris,
that magical point,

859
01:03:43,299 --> 01:03:48,219
that turning point for the club,
the following season wasn't that good.

860
01:03:48,338 --> 01:03:53,338
The leading players were not really
leading the group properly.

861
01:03:54,058 --> 01:03:57,978
Maybe we had so much success so early
that maybe it was too early.

862
01:03:58,738 --> 01:04:01,898
Slowly, but steadily,
we were going in the wrong direction.

863
01:04:02,018 --> 01:04:05,858
The second season that I was here,
Rijkaard was still in charge.

864
01:04:05,978 --> 01:04:12,218
I think it's one of the worst seasons
in the recent history of Barcelona,

865
01:04:12,337 --> 01:04:13,617
where we came third.

866
01:04:14,977 --> 01:04:17,737
We went backwards after winning in Paris,

867
01:04:17,857 --> 01:04:19,617
and winning the league.

868
01:04:19,737 --> 01:04:25,017
We'd stopped competing.
we'd lost our fire, our hunger.

869
01:04:25,137 --> 01:04:28,097
You could sense through the
season that it was the end of an era.

870
01:04:28,218 --> 01:04:29,498
People wanted a change,

871
01:04:29,617 --> 01:04:32,977
and I was part of the people
that they wanted out.

872
01:04:33,096 --> 01:04:34,936
It was very difficult.

873
01:04:39,058 --> 01:04:41,618
I've only been sent off twice:
Once because the referee made a mistake,

874
01:04:41,737 --> 01:04:43,177
and once at the Bernabéu.

875
01:04:50,496 --> 01:04:52,256
I felt angry and powerless.

876
01:04:52,376 --> 01:04:54,176
They were running rings around us.

877
01:04:54,297 --> 01:04:59,577
Never mind 4-1, we could have lost 7-1.

878
01:04:59,696 --> 01:05:02,856
It was one of the worst nights of my career,

879
01:05:02,976 --> 01:05:05,256
and the same goes for Puyol and everyone else.

880
01:05:10,456 --> 01:05:14,096
It just wasn't good enough.
Not for the standards people set here.

881
01:05:14,217 --> 01:05:15,897
Not good enough for the club.

882
01:05:16,016 --> 01:05:19,496
And not good enough if you
look at the players that we had.

883
01:05:19,616 --> 01:05:21,176
Something had to change.

884
01:05:31,977 --> 01:05:35,617
Mourinho does come out
of this story as the bad guy,

885
01:05:35,695 --> 01:05:39,135
but in 2008, he was a
perfectly legitimate candidate ...

886
01:05:39,255 --> 01:05:41,775
to succeed the failing Frank Rijkaard.

887
01:05:42,417 --> 01:05:43,417
He's a winner,

888
01:05:43,535 --> 01:05:47,375
and it felt like a safer
choice because he was a big brand,

889
01:05:47,496 --> 01:05:52,096
and he'd recently coached Chelsea, etc.,
and he was on the market.

890
01:05:53,375 --> 01:05:54,895
It was a long process,
there were many board members

891
01:05:55,016 --> 01:05:56,016
who wanted Mourinho.

892
01:05:56,135 --> 01:06:02,455
They argued that we needed a manager
who would get results quickly.

893
01:06:03,135 --> 01:06:07,255
Given there were four or five
directors keen on Mourinho,

894
01:06:07,376 --> 01:06:14,056
the vice president organized
a meeting with him and off he went.

895
01:06:14,334 --> 01:06:17,294
By that time he was employing the 4-3-3,

896
01:06:17,414 --> 01:06:18,974
he even prepared a PowerPoint ...

897
01:06:19,095 --> 01:06:23,895
with some pitch positions of the
players and typical movements.

898
01:06:24,014 --> 01:06:26,574
I'm sure he would have been successful.

899
01:06:32,494 --> 01:06:33,654
Mourinho helped us a lot
when we were young players.

900
01:06:33,775 --> 01:06:40,055
Van Gaal often sent him
to take Barça B training.

901
01:06:43,055 --> 01:06:45,095
I was with the under-19s
and he'd coach us once a week.

902
01:06:45,214 --> 01:06:51,334
It was the same style of football,
the Barça philosophy.

903
01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:55,173
The rondo, possession,
holding onto the ball, positional play.

904
01:06:55,294 --> 01:06:57,534
We worked on all of that with Mourinho.

905
01:06:57,653 --> 01:07:00,413
You could understand that Mourinho felt ...

906
01:07:00,533 --> 01:07:03,853
he should be in charge of making Barça
the greatest team in the world.

907
01:07:04,214 --> 01:07:07,254
But by 2008,
Mourinho had changed radically.

908
01:07:07,373 --> 01:07:12,013
It was about power, height,
athleticism, over technique.

909
01:07:13,775 --> 01:07:15,375
When he went to Chelsea,

910
01:07:15,492 --> 01:07:19,412
Mourinho's philosophy of the game changed.

911
01:07:19,774 --> 01:07:23,094
It's a very different style
to the football we play at Barça.

912
01:07:27,133 --> 01:07:30,013
We wanted to stay faithful
to Cruyff's philosophy.

913
01:07:31,534 --> 01:07:36,534
The president and Johan were good friends,

914
01:07:36,654 --> 01:07:40,614
and Laporta had complete
confidence in Johan's opinion.

915
01:07:40,733 --> 01:07:44,533
Johan told him the man for the job
was training the youth team.

916
01:07:45,293 --> 01:07:47,293
All he needed to do was promote him.

917
01:07:47,733 --> 01:07:51,693
There's a lot of football players ...
There were a lot of football players

918
01:07:51,813 --> 01:07:54,093
that came to visit my father periodically.

919
01:07:54,213 --> 01:07:55,213
My father loved that.

920
01:07:55,333 --> 01:08:00,013
And I know Pep also loved that,
and I know that they were meeting a lot.

921
01:08:00,132 --> 01:08:04,332
So when my father had,
what we could call a crazy idea

922
01:08:04,453 --> 01:08:07,213
that the coach who was in Barça B
in the third division,

923
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:10,653
or the third level at the time, to say,
"Put him in the first team."

924
01:08:10,772 --> 01:08:13,292
That's a big gamble.

925
01:08:14,613 --> 01:08:15,693
I asked them if they
thought Pep was ready,

926
01:08:16,372 --> 01:08:20,172
and Txiki Begiristain and Johan,
who saw him regularly, said he was.

927
01:08:20,692 --> 01:08:22,932
Mourinho's agent called me and said,

928
01:08:23,052 --> 01:08:25,412
"Are you going to appoint Mourinho or not ?

929
01:08:25,533 --> 01:08:30,333
Because if you're interested,
we need to talk."

930
01:08:30,452 --> 01:08:33,572
And I said to him,
"No, Jorge. We've chosen Pep Guardiola."

931
01:08:34,172 --> 01:08:36,852
So I told Pep that I wanted
him to be the next manager ...

932
01:08:36,971 --> 01:08:38,731
if the season didn't end well.

933
01:08:39,211 --> 01:08:46,211
We were having lunch and Pep,
half in jest, said to me,

934
01:08:46,571 --> 01:08:50,651
"If you appoint me as coach
I'll win everything for you."

935
01:08:50,772 --> 01:08:51,932
He honestly said that.

936
01:09:01,731 --> 01:09:03,571
When I heard that Guardiola
would be our new manager,

937
01:09:03,691 --> 01:09:06,731
I knew that everything would go well.

938
01:09:07,410 --> 01:09:09,890
I hadn't worked with him as a
coach but we were teammates,

939
01:09:10,010 --> 01:09:13,410
and I knew what a perfectionist he was.

940
01:09:13,531 --> 01:09:15,331
And I thought, this is going to be great.

941
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:20,770
In retrospect, it's remarkable,
but because of Euro 2008,

942
01:09:20,892 --> 01:09:24,572
Guardiola's appointment had garnered
very little media coverage in Spain ...

943
01:09:24,690 --> 01:09:26,410
until the day of his presentation ...

944
01:09:26,531 --> 01:09:30,651
when he sits there,
lean, young, full head of hair,

945
01:09:30,771 --> 01:09:33,091
the returning local hero and says,

946
01:09:33,211 --> 01:09:37,171
"Everything changes."
Ronaldinho, out ! Deco, out !

947
01:09:37,290 --> 01:09:41,090
Eto'o, out !
Or, at best, third choice striker.

948
01:09:41,211 --> 01:09:44,771
It was his statement of : "I'm in charge."

949
01:09:46,411 --> 01:09:49,691
Just imagine what Samuel was
like when he heard that.

950
01:09:49,810 --> 01:09:55,330
It was like an explosion.

951
01:10:03,049 --> 01:10:04,409
Given the kind of player I was,

952
01:10:04,530 --> 01:10:07,170
and considering what I'd done for the club,

953
01:10:07,289 --> 01:10:10,969
it would have been nice for Pep
to have called me with the news.

954
01:10:11,089 --> 01:10:13,129
It's always better to be straight with people.

955
01:10:13,249 --> 01:10:15,449
It was a big shock to find out that way.

956
01:10:18,489 --> 01:10:21,889
Tactically, he's the best in the world.
I've always said that.

957
01:10:22,010 --> 01:10:23,970
He understands the game better than anyone,

958
01:10:24,091 --> 01:10:25,531
but I'll be even better ...

959
01:10:26,248 --> 01:10:28,048
because I'll be up front with people.

960
01:10:30,249 --> 01:10:32,289
Samuel took training seriously.
He trained as hard as he played.

961
01:10:33,329 --> 01:10:35,169
Every manager loved Eto'o ...

962
01:10:35,289 --> 01:10:40,009
but at training,
it was all or nothing with him,

963
01:10:40,130 --> 01:10:42,090
and he often caused problems.

964
01:10:42,210 --> 01:10:46,730
I remember Rijkaard told me
we had to get rid of Samuel ...

965
01:10:46,848 --> 01:10:51,808
because he grabbed one of the
assistants by the scruff of the neck ...

966
01:10:51,928 --> 01:10:54,208
for giving him offside in training.

967
01:10:54,328 --> 01:10:56,728
But that passion is also good.

968
01:10:57,210 --> 01:11:00,570
I remember the pre-season
training camp in St Andrews.

969
01:11:00,689 --> 01:11:02,009
We were all curious.

970
01:11:02,127 --> 01:11:04,327
We'd sold Deco and Ronaldinho,

971
01:11:04,969 --> 01:11:06,609
but I was keen to keep Eto'o,

972
01:11:06,728 --> 01:11:10,448
and I told him that I'd try to keep him.

973
01:11:11,767 --> 01:11:12,807
He was brilliant during that pre-season.

974
01:11:12,929 --> 01:11:15,729
He worked harder and
ran more than anyone else.

975
01:11:17,208 --> 01:11:20,888
In the pre-season games
he scored more than anyone.

976
01:11:22,127 --> 01:11:25,167
So the captains went to see Pep ...

977
01:11:25,289 --> 01:11:27,409
I hope Pep doesn't get annoyed I'm sharing this !

978
01:11:27,527 --> 01:11:31,607
They told Pep that ...
Eto'o would be a big help that season.

979
01:11:32,567 --> 01:11:35,087
The guy they wanted to kick out saved them.

980
01:11:35,209 --> 01:11:37,369
Everyone talks about Messi these days,

981
01:11:37,486 --> 01:11:40,366
but the one who made the
difference at Barça back then

982
01:11:40,488 --> 01:11:42,448
wasn't Ronaldinho. It was Eto'o.

983
01:11:43,089 --> 01:11:46,209
When things got difficult,
it was me they all looked to.

984
01:11:49,767 --> 01:11:52,167
The team could have played without a manager.

985
01:11:52,647 --> 01:11:56,127
Guardiola's job was to reinstall a desire to win,

986
01:11:56,247 --> 01:11:59,127
and he achieved that with his team talks.

987
01:12:09,527 --> 01:12:11,687
After his first team talk in St Andrews ...

988
01:12:13,007 --> 01:12:15,927
I knew that something big was about to happen.

989
01:12:16,047 --> 01:12:20,367
I'd never heard anyone convey
a message like that before.

990
01:12:20,486 --> 01:12:25,886
At that moment,
everyone knew that things would go well.

991
01:12:27,486 --> 01:12:28,526
Pep spoke to the players a lot.

992
01:12:28,648 --> 01:12:31,648
Maybe his most famous team
talk was when he said,

993
01:12:31,768 --> 01:12:35,608
"You can miss a penalty or mess up a pass.

994
01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:36,886
"You're only human.

995
01:12:37,007 --> 01:12:43,567
"But I'll never forgive you
if you don't give me 100%."

996
01:12:46,607 --> 01:12:48,367
There are very few people who
communicate as well as he does.

997
01:12:48,486 --> 01:12:54,046
He makes his players believe
in what they have to do.

998
01:12:54,167 --> 01:12:56,967
And he convinces you that it will work.

999
01:12:57,087 --> 01:12:58,927
From the first minute,

1000
01:12:59,044 --> 01:13:05,684
we all believed that a change was coming,

1001
01:13:05,806 --> 01:13:07,726
and that we could achieve big things.

1002
01:13:09,286 --> 01:13:12,446
Pep's team talks were exactly what I needed.

1003
01:13:14,285 --> 01:13:16,925
He was so passionate when he spoke.

1004
01:13:17,486 --> 01:13:18,806
I love a challenge.

1005
01:13:18,925 --> 01:13:23,245
I really like having
to work at something important.

1006
01:13:23,365 --> 01:13:26,645
So when they told me everything
was going to change at Barça,

1007
01:13:26,764 --> 01:13:29,404
that a new coach and new players were arriving,

1008
01:13:29,524 --> 01:13:31,724
I decided that was where I wanted to be.

1009
01:13:33,525 --> 01:13:34,725
I joined up with the team for pre-season,

1010
01:13:34,846 --> 01:13:36,406
and I needed to talk to Guardiola.

1011
01:13:36,524 --> 01:13:40,124
I told him I'd had offers to join other teams.

1012
01:13:41,005 --> 01:13:43,485
Ten seconds is what it took.

1013
01:13:43,605 --> 01:13:47,285
He told me he had three or four line-ups in mind

1014
01:13:47,805 --> 01:13:50,085
and he couldn't imagine a
single one without me in it.

1015
01:13:50,206 --> 01:13:53,926
I told my brother, my agent and everyone else ...

1016
01:13:54,044 --> 01:13:55,804
not to listen to any other offers.

1017
01:13:56,844 --> 01:13:58,804
It was a good start in pre-season,

1018
01:13:58,925 --> 01:14:00,325
and the freshness about the team,

1019
01:14:00,446 --> 01:14:02,926
and a lot of hard work and well-prepared,

1020
01:14:03,045 --> 01:14:05,525
but the season itself
didn't start that well.

1021
01:14:13,764 --> 01:14:18,404
I actually saw that game with my father,
here at home.

1022
01:14:18,525 --> 01:14:20,245
And they lost to Numancia.

1023
01:14:20,364 --> 01:14:23,524
And immediately the attacks,
"He's not prepared for this."

1024
01:14:23,644 --> 01:14:26,324
My father said,
"It's one of the best games in years !"

1025
01:14:26,444 --> 01:14:30,724
You know, come on ! Give us a break !
It was not the best game.

1026
01:14:31,124 --> 01:14:34,364
Most of us, including me,
probably saw the game and said,

1027
01:14:34,484 --> 01:14:36,284
"Wow ! This doesn't smell good."

1028
01:14:36,724 --> 01:14:39,764
My father never looked at
the end product of 90 minutes.

1029
01:14:39,883 --> 01:14:42,963
My father looked at the end
product of many years to come.

1030
01:14:53,884 --> 01:14:56,004
It was really a big moment for myself,

1031
01:14:56,125 --> 01:15:00,205
and it was probably an even bigger
moment for the team and for the club ...

1032
01:15:00,323 --> 01:15:02,363
because we needed that victory.

1033
01:15:02,723 --> 01:15:05,003
If we'd drawn that game,

1034
01:15:05,123 --> 01:15:08,083
the question marks would have
started flying around.

1035
01:15:09,403 --> 01:15:12,723
And once we found that click,
once we got that first victory,

1036
01:15:14,364 --> 01:15:15,684
there was no stopping us.

1037
01:15:34,363 --> 01:15:39,363
Guardiola taught us so much,
but he also explained why we did things.

1038
01:15:39,483 --> 01:15:41,843
Most of us already understood the reasons ...

1039
01:15:41,964 --> 01:15:45,404
because we'd spent years at Barça,

1040
01:15:45,522 --> 01:15:48,602
but the guys from other clubs
noticed a huge change ...

1041
01:15:48,722 --> 01:15:50,522
when Guardiola took over.

1042
01:15:56,082 --> 01:16:00,962
He was the coach who
completely changed my outlook.

1043
01:16:02,242 --> 01:16:07,722
When I arrived here he showed
me an entirely new way ...

1044
01:16:07,843 --> 01:16:11,483
of seeing, playing,
and thinking about football.

1045
01:16:13,801 --> 01:16:17,761
It always reminded me of the
tactics of a basketball team,

1046
01:16:17,883 --> 01:16:21,083
when they have the ball and
start signaling to each other ...

1047
01:16:21,201 --> 01:16:23,441
that they're going to try a certain play.

1048
01:16:23,562 --> 01:16:24,962
It was a bit like that.

1049
01:16:27,723 --> 01:16:28,843
It was fantastic.

1050
01:16:28,961 --> 01:16:31,041
I was never allowed to kick the ball long,

1051
01:16:31,161 --> 01:16:35,121
and from the very first minute
I was involved in the tactics.

1052
01:16:35,242 --> 01:16:37,882
So I had to really concentrate all the time,

1053
01:16:38,001 --> 01:16:44,841
which meant every match flew by really fast.

1054
01:16:44,961 --> 01:16:49,161
It was great because I'd been used to
a more direct style of football,

1055
01:16:49,281 --> 01:16:54,721
and sometimes all I'd be thinking
about was how boring the games were.

1056
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,360
I was in my element because Guardiola
and I shared the same philosophy.

1057
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:05,480
I'd think, don't clear it, pass it,
and Guardiola would say exactly that.

1058
01:17:05,599 --> 01:17:11,599
But my football philosophy
isn't the same as Abidal's or Henry's ...

1059
01:17:11,721 --> 01:17:14,481
or Hleb's or Yaya Toure's.

1060
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:20,320
They thought they were playing well,
and at other clubs they would have been.

1061
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:23,120
Not at Barça.
It's a different kind of football.

1062
01:17:23,481 --> 01:17:26,601
Whoa, hang on ! That's new.
Let me assess it. Let me see it.

1063
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,120
Let me put my pride on the side, also.

1064
01:17:29,241 --> 01:17:33,641
Because that team had a lot of guys
that are all kings in their country.

1065
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,000
To tell a guy that used to do
maybe stuff or whatever,

1066
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,040
"No, stay there. Don't do that.
Make that run for him."

1067
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:44,199
"What ? What do you mean ?
I can play football too !"

1068
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,400
Pep's methods were different.

1069
01:17:46,521 --> 01:17:49,361
He was very hands-on, always intervening.

1070
01:17:49,480 --> 01:17:52,560
I remember Abidal and a few
others coming to me and saying,

1071
01:17:52,679 --> 01:17:54,879
"This guy's changing everything !"

1072
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,520
I wasn't some 15-year-old kid.

1073
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,920
If you treat me with respect,
I'll do the same in return,

1074
01:18:03,039 --> 01:18:04,959
but if not, why should I respect you ?

1075
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,800
So I said to Pep,
"You can't speak to me like that."

1076
01:18:07,919 --> 01:18:10,839
I went to the president and told him,
"If this continues, I'm off."

1077
01:18:10,958 --> 01:18:15,118
Abi came from Lyon,
where he had another way of playing.

1078
01:18:16,519 --> 01:18:18,359
Look at the Abidal that arrived,

1079
01:18:19,278 --> 01:18:21,878
and look at the Abidal three years after.

1080
01:18:22,599 --> 01:18:25,719
Crosses, putting the ball down and passing it out.

1081
01:18:25,838 --> 01:18:27,918
Before he would have cleared it straight away.

1082
01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:31,719
He wouldn't have been that
composed in the last third.

1083
01:18:33,878 --> 01:18:37,398
I think Pep's a football genius.

1084
01:18:37,519 --> 01:18:43,999
Sometimes he can be a bit controlling,
checking every last detail.

1085
01:18:44,117 --> 01:18:45,997
Some guys accept and respect that,

1086
01:18:46,118 --> 01:18:50,558
but there are others who say,
"You know where you can stick that."

1087
01:18:50,679 --> 01:18:52,839
I arrived here. I was 21.

1088
01:18:52,959 --> 01:18:56,999
And for me it was like love
and hate at the same time ...

1089
01:18:57,117 --> 01:19:01,597
because every minute of your life,
you have to be focused on football.

1090
01:19:01,718 --> 01:19:04,758
Twelve o'clock you have to go to bed to sleep.

1091
01:19:04,877 --> 01:19:09,037
You have to eat well.
He wants to control you in every way.

1092
01:19:09,158 --> 01:19:12,758
"Don't go and watch the tennis,
don't stay under the sun,

1093
01:19:12,878 --> 01:19:15,318
don't go to the Formula 1,
don't go to this.

1094
01:19:15,438 --> 01:19:16,638
We're here on a mission."

1095
01:19:16,758 --> 01:19:20,758
He wanted to know everything.
What we ate, what we ... Whatever !

1096
01:19:21,317 --> 01:19:22,917
He was so obsessed ...

1097
01:19:23,038 --> 01:19:29,158
that sometimes we had some
arguments between him and me.

1098
01:19:30,558 --> 01:19:32,238
Gerard is one of my best friends,

1099
01:19:32,317 --> 01:19:36,277
but I believe a manager has to be like that.

1100
01:19:36,398 --> 01:19:38,958
During training,
we always had to give 100%,

1101
01:19:39,077 --> 01:19:41,357
but I'd done that my entire career.

1102
01:19:41,477 --> 01:19:43,877
In my opinion,
that's how football should be.

1103
01:19:44,117 --> 01:19:46,037
On the one hand, he was very demanding.

1104
01:19:46,158 --> 01:19:50,438
We all had to have lunch
at the training ground every day.

1105
01:19:50,556 --> 01:19:52,596
He controlled our weight, what we ate.

1106
01:19:52,716 --> 01:19:55,996
He completely revolutionized the team's diet.

1107
01:19:56,118 --> 01:19:59,358
But on the other hand,
he gave us the night off before matches.

1108
01:20:00,276 --> 01:20:03,916
As a player, he always complained
that we spent too much time in hotels.

1109
01:20:05,277 --> 01:20:08,397
Initially, it seemed like a strange decision ...

1110
01:20:08,515 --> 01:20:10,555
because we weren't used to it,

1111
01:20:10,676 --> 01:20:14,516
but I think it was one of
the best decisions he made.

1112
01:20:14,637 --> 01:20:17,877
For me where Pep was,
at times, ahead of the game ...

1113
01:20:18,877 --> 01:20:21,917
The fact that, Champions League final,

1114
01:20:22,037 --> 01:20:26,997
in the hotel : family, kids, wives.

1115
01:20:27,076 --> 01:20:28,956
My brother was in my room, midnight.

1116
01:20:29,597 --> 01:20:35,117
Girlfriend, friends, we're just talking,
I made a cup of coffee, chilling.

1117
01:20:35,236 --> 01:20:36,956
You play for any other team,

1118
01:20:37,076 --> 01:20:42,316
"Don't do this, don't do that. No.
You have to concentrate."

1119
01:20:43,875 --> 01:20:48,555
We were lucky because Pep
had only recently retired,

1120
01:20:48,675 --> 01:20:53,155
and he understood what the life
of a top footballer was like.

1121
01:20:55,955 --> 01:20:58,715
We'd go to every training session
and match with a spring in our step ...

1122
01:20:58,835 --> 01:21:01,475
because he was treating us well.
He understood us.

1123
01:21:02,476 --> 01:21:06,556
Listen, I say it every
single time to my friends.

1124
01:21:07,156 --> 01:21:09,116
When the ref was blowing the whistle,

1125
01:21:10,835 --> 01:21:13,395
I used to look at the time and say,
"Already ?"

1126
01:21:13,515 --> 01:21:15,675
I didn't want the game to end.

1127
01:21:16,275 --> 01:21:20,195
I didn't want the game to end.
I was like, "I'm enjoying this."

1128
01:21:22,396 --> 01:21:24,796
We had a great teacher
and we were like sponges,

1129
01:21:24,916 --> 01:21:27,276
absorbing everything he taught us.

1130
01:21:27,393 --> 01:21:30,073
It makes no difference
how great the teacher is ...

1131
01:21:30,195 --> 01:21:34,875
if the students aren't capable
of understanding the message.

1132
01:21:34,994 --> 01:21:38,514
It all came together perfectly.

1133
01:21:44,035 --> 01:21:45,195
We won everything because we were the best team,

1134
01:21:45,316 --> 01:21:48,396
but we also had the luck of champions.

1135
01:21:48,514 --> 01:21:50,834
There were some epic moments that season.

1136
01:21:50,955 --> 01:21:55,995
Like when winning the Cup
hinged on one crucial moment ...

1137
01:21:56,114 --> 01:21:58,674
when Pinto saved a penalty against Mallorca.

1138
01:22:07,553 --> 01:22:08,673
We were losing 1-0,

1139
01:22:08,794 --> 01:22:14,354
and at the start of the second
half we conceded a penalty,

1140
01:22:14,473 --> 01:22:17,113
and Martín Cáceres was sent off.

1141
01:22:17,233 --> 01:22:24,233
So I thought I'd try and
unsettle the penalty taker.

1142
01:22:24,793 --> 01:22:27,233
I said, "Where are you
going to put the penalty ?"

1143
01:22:27,353 --> 01:22:31,673
He didn't answer, so I said,
"I'm going to dive that way."

1144
01:22:31,793 --> 01:22:35,873
And I got lucky,
I went the right way and made the save.

1145
01:22:36,434 --> 01:22:40,514
It gave us a massive boost.

1146
01:22:40,632 --> 01:22:42,672
And then Leo came on.

1147
01:22:42,793 --> 01:22:45,793
He got fouled,
their defender was sent off,

1148
01:22:45,912 --> 01:22:47,512
and he scored a wonder-goal.

1149
01:22:49,833 --> 01:22:53,193
In La Liga, if we lost at the Bernabéu,
they'd have cut the gap at the top.

1150
01:22:53,312 --> 01:22:56,112
But we won 6-2, which won us the league.

1151
01:22:56,232 --> 01:22:57,672
That was the key game.

1152
01:22:57,793 --> 01:23:00,273
They were four points behind us,

1153
01:23:00,392 --> 01:23:04,032
and if they beat us,
it was really tough to win the league.

1154
01:23:04,154 --> 01:23:07,194
But we played one of the
best games I've ever seen.

1155
01:23:16,351 --> 01:23:17,631
I really enjoyed it.
It was one of the best games ever.

1156
01:23:17,752 --> 01:23:20,352
When I die, I'll probably
be thinking about that night.

1157
01:23:21,793 --> 01:23:23,833
Puyol kissing the captain's
armband Messi scoring goals,

1158
01:23:23,952 --> 01:23:27,312
and Henry and Piqué. Oh, fantastic !

1159
01:23:28,312 --> 01:23:32,472
I obviously had to behave
appropriately but what a feeling !

1160
01:23:46,991 --> 01:23:52,871
It's weird because it's eight years ago.

1161
01:23:52,992 --> 01:23:57,192
I always watch it on television.
I've watched that goal a hundred times.

1162
01:23:57,310 --> 01:24:02,910
So I always remember this image.
I cannot remember what I felt.

1163
01:24:03,031 --> 01:24:06,751
Obviously,
it was like an unbelievable feeling ...

1164
01:24:06,871 --> 01:24:09,111
because it was a tremendous game.

1165
01:24:11,351 --> 01:24:14,511
But the 6-2 was extra special
because of our tactics.

1166
01:24:16,231 --> 01:24:18,951
That's when that fake nine whole thing started.

1167
01:24:22,832 --> 01:24:24,232
Pep called me the day before the game,

1168
01:24:24,351 --> 01:24:26,951
and told me to come down to the training ground.

1169
01:24:28,272 --> 01:24:30,232
He was keen to discuss a new position.

1170
01:24:30,349 --> 01:24:33,269
He'd been watching videos of games with Tito.

1171
01:24:33,391 --> 01:24:35,951
He said he wanted to try something different.

1172
01:24:36,071 --> 01:24:38,991
The red glasses are Barça,
the others are Real Madrid.

1173
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:40,630
Pep changed our system,

1174
01:24:40,751 --> 01:24:44,191
and told Henry to play between
the right-back and center-back,

1175
01:24:44,311 --> 01:24:46,791
with Eto'o between the
center-back and left-back.

1176
01:24:46,911 --> 01:24:50,671
Guardiola had analyzed the Madrid center-backs,

1177
01:24:50,791 --> 01:24:55,471
and noticed they never came out
to press the number nine.

1178
01:24:57,589 --> 01:25:00,629
Thanks to the false nine,
we outnumbered them in midfield ...

1179
01:25:00,749 --> 01:25:02,549
when Messi dropped back.

1180
01:25:02,670 --> 01:25:05,910
We always had an extra man.

1181
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:10,670
Pep said we'd outnumber them
throughout the entire game.

1182
01:25:10,749 --> 01:25:11,829
He was right.

1183
01:25:11,950 --> 01:25:13,590
We'd never played that way,

1184
01:25:15,189 --> 01:25:19,429
so Madrid hadn't studied the
possibility of us playing like that.

1185
01:25:19,710 --> 01:25:22,190
The center-backs didn't
know whether to mark me or not,

1186
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:26,750
which meant I had lots of
space when I dropped back.

1187
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:29,670
And as soon as the defenders
came out to close me down,

1188
01:25:29,790 --> 01:25:32,390
Eto'o and Henry made runs in behind.

1189
01:25:32,509 --> 01:25:34,909
That's what happened for Henry's first goal.

1190
01:25:35,029 --> 01:25:37,989
It was a great performance.

1191
01:25:38,109 --> 01:25:40,949
And it worked out because on
that goal that Leo gave me ...

1192
01:25:41,069 --> 01:25:42,509
that's exactly what happened.

1193
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:46,309
He was in a position where they didn't
know if they have to come and get him,

1194
01:25:46,428 --> 01:25:49,868
but I'm running in behind,
Sam was running on the other side,

1195
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:51,390
and it worked out.

1196
01:25:55,269 --> 01:25:59,629
It wasn't so robotic
because we also improvised.

1197
01:25:59,749 --> 01:26:01,829
Robots would be like,

1198
01:26:01,949 --> 01:26:05,549
"I. Go. Here. Now. I. Go. There."

1199
01:26:05,669 --> 01:26:08,469
No. There was always room to be creative.

1200
01:26:08,589 --> 01:26:15,469
But 60% of our match strategy
was set in stone before kick-off.

1201
01:26:16,588 --> 01:26:19,468
The other 40% was down to our improvisations.

1202
01:26:25,469 --> 01:26:26,909
In the Champions League,

1203
01:26:27,027 --> 01:26:31,507
if it hadn't been for Iniesta's goal,
we were out.

1204
01:26:31,628 --> 01:26:33,308
A 92nd-minute goal.

1205
01:26:44,947 --> 01:26:49,547
I was sat with the captain Carles Puyol,
who was suspended.

1206
01:26:49,667 --> 01:26:51,067
Bam, Chelsea go 1-0 up.

1207
01:26:52,107 --> 01:26:53,347
And Puyol said to me,

1208
01:26:53,468 --> 01:26:58,108
"Don't worry, it's fine.
We'll score at the end."

1209
01:26:58,228 --> 01:27:04,428
There I was watching it and I'm like,
"Oh, my gosh ! We are gonna lose here."

1210
01:27:06,188 --> 01:27:07,988
The minutes kept ticking away,
and I didn't have the nerve to say,

1211
01:27:08,108 --> 01:27:11,788
"Look skipper, you were wrong !
This ain't gonna happen !"

1212
01:27:13,987 --> 01:27:16,627
I knew that if we could just hold on,

1213
01:27:16,747 --> 01:27:22,387
because we were under the cosh,
we'd definitely create one last chance.

1214
01:27:22,506 --> 01:27:25,866
And then little Andrés arrived to save the day.

1215
01:27:50,745 --> 01:27:55,345
Every time I watch that goal,
it sparks so many emotions

1216
01:27:55,466 --> 01:27:59,546
because it was such a significant moment for my club.

1217
01:28:00,346 --> 01:28:02,746
I'll never get tired of watching it.

1218
01:28:04,227 --> 01:28:05,947
It's because of moments like
this that we love football.

1219
01:28:08,865 --> 01:28:12,185
The only thing that beats it is sex.

1220
01:28:13,545 --> 01:28:14,865
That was the most important
goal in this whole story.

1221
01:28:14,986 --> 01:28:17,306
If we hadn't reached that final in Rome,

1222
01:28:18,025 --> 01:28:20,865
we probably wouldn't still
be talking about Pep's Barça.

1223
01:28:29,866 --> 01:28:31,226
I don't know how I played.

1224
01:28:35,585 --> 01:28:37,825
Iniesta ... I don't know how he played.

1225
01:28:38,305 --> 01:28:41,225
We were on a mission.
We didn't want to let that one go.

1226
01:28:43,425 --> 01:28:45,505
We had a chance to win the treble.

1227
01:28:45,625 --> 01:28:49,665
We'd just gone through the
drama of Stamford Bridge.

1228
01:28:51,065 --> 01:28:54,625
When we won the Champions League
against Arsenal in Paris,

1229
01:28:54,744 --> 01:28:56,464
I wasn't picked to start.

1230
01:28:56,584 --> 01:28:59,424
So I had to play this time.

1231
01:28:59,544 --> 01:29:04,344
No matter the risk or possible consequences.

1232
01:29:05,625 --> 01:29:07,145
I advised him not to shoot
powerfully from distance ...

1233
01:29:07,264 --> 01:29:13,504
because there was a big risk
he'd tear his muscle again.

1234
01:29:13,624 --> 01:29:15,104
Yaya played center back.

1235
01:29:15,225 --> 01:29:18,105
Sylvinho wasn't even playing
that season, he played.

1236
01:29:18,225 --> 01:29:19,625
Puyol played right back.

1237
01:29:19,743 --> 01:29:22,183
Some people were like,
"Hmm, people are missing.

1238
01:29:22,303 --> 01:29:24,623
Two guys are starting injured."

1239
01:29:26,145 --> 01:29:27,905
We knew we'd win the game,
because Pep told us we'd win.

1240
01:29:28,025 --> 01:29:29,665
Pep's a genius.

1241
01:29:29,783 --> 01:29:34,543
He'd tell us exactly what we
needed to do in order to win.

1242
01:29:34,664 --> 01:29:36,064
I hope he will never change ...

1243
01:29:36,185 --> 01:29:40,945
because he is, for me,
the future of the game.

1244
01:29:42,343 --> 01:29:43,743
Some matches looked impossible to win,

1245
01:29:43,864 --> 01:29:47,784
but after 20 minutes,
we'd have them wrapped up,

1246
01:29:48,384 --> 01:29:51,984
like the game against
Manchester United in Rome.

1247
01:29:52,423 --> 01:29:55,623
What manager would show you a video

1248
01:29:57,103 --> 01:29:58,663
five minutes before a Champions League final ?

1249
01:29:58,744 --> 01:29:59,824
Only him.

1250
01:29:59,943 --> 01:30:03,903
We don't know what was happening.
We go inside. There's a screen.

1251
01:30:04,743 --> 01:30:07,863
The boss asks us to stand in front of the screen,

1252
01:30:07,982 --> 01:30:10,102
and we are basically waiting.

1253
01:30:11,704 --> 01:30:13,904
Pep and Tito had made a spectacular video ...

1254
01:30:14,023 --> 01:30:15,823
featuring every single one of us.

1255
01:30:15,942 --> 01:30:19,022
With the music of Gladiator,
I think it was.

1256
01:30:19,144 --> 01:30:22,864
We see the whole journey to the final.

1257
01:30:24,103 --> 01:30:27,823
Sad moments, good moments, struggles.

1258
01:30:30,862 --> 01:30:34,782
After Iniesta's goal at Stamford Bridge
I got a text message from Pep ...

1259
01:30:34,903 --> 01:30:38,143
"I need your help to win
the Champions League."

1260
01:30:38,262 --> 01:30:43,342
The first feedback I received
was on the night before the game.

1261
01:30:43,462 --> 01:30:47,862
Pep gathered his technical staff
and showed them the video.

1262
01:30:49,304 --> 01:30:50,424
As soon as I saw it,

1263
01:30:50,542 --> 01:30:53,742
I honestly knew we'd win
the Champions League final.

1264
01:30:54,141 --> 01:30:59,461
It was so powerful.
It was ... It was so powerful

1265
01:30:59,582 --> 01:31:03,622
that I would say, also,
it was too powerful.

1266
01:31:05,183 --> 01:31:08,703
As a motivational tool,
the video was a total disaster.

1267
01:31:08,821 --> 01:31:11,421
In the opening ten minutes,
if it wasn't for Víctor ...

1268
01:31:16,502 --> 01:31:17,662
they'd have scored twice !

1269
01:31:19,421 --> 01:31:21,181
The boss was very sentimental.

1270
01:31:21,541 --> 01:31:24,741
I went to the dressing room
and was told I couldn't go in.

1271
01:31:24,823 --> 01:31:25,903
"What ?"

1272
01:31:26,022 --> 01:31:28,262
They said the boss was preparing something.

1273
01:31:28,381 --> 01:31:31,061
When we finally got in,
we had no time to prepare

1274
01:31:31,181 --> 01:31:32,381
and it was sweltering hot.

1275
01:31:32,502 --> 01:31:37,342
Then he showed us a video
that had all of us in tears.

1276
01:31:38,421 --> 01:31:41,221
We went onto the pitch
and Andrea Bocelli was singing,

1277
01:31:41,341 --> 01:31:43,141
which almost set us off again.

1278
01:31:43,262 --> 01:31:47,102
Manchester United must have
wondered what was wrong with us.

1279
01:31:47,220 --> 01:31:50,300
We were in pieces.

1280
01:31:50,422 --> 01:31:53,702
After the video, he said,
"Guys, at the end of the game,

1281
01:31:53,821 --> 01:31:56,581
"I want people to say
that we can play football.

1282
01:31:57,700 --> 01:31:58,940
"Have a good game."

1283
01:32:18,901 --> 01:32:22,141
We went into the game believing
we had a great chance of winning.

1284
01:32:22,260 --> 01:32:26,220
The first, might've been ten,
15 minutes, we started really well.

1285
01:32:26,341 --> 01:32:29,701
Probably out of nowhere,
I've headed one down in midfield,

1286
01:32:29,820 --> 01:32:32,900
Iniesta's picked it up,
made a run, and all of a sudden,

1287
01:32:33,019 --> 01:32:34,939
boom, Eto'o and you're one down.

1288
01:32:36,301 --> 01:32:38,541
Maybe from that moment on they just ...

1289
01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:42,140
That was what they needed.
Take a deep breath,

1290
01:32:42,260 --> 01:32:44,180
just get the ball and start passing it,

1291
01:32:44,300 --> 01:32:46,580
and gradually, sucking the life out of us.

1292
01:32:46,701 --> 01:32:51,141
You know when you play against
someone and you look in their eyes,

1293
01:32:51,260 --> 01:32:52,980
and it's over.

1294
01:32:53,099 --> 01:32:55,059
I think it was Wayne Rooney.

1295
01:32:55,180 --> 01:32:57,940
He was trying to get the ball
and we were keeping the ball,

1296
01:32:58,059 --> 01:33:02,259
and you could see the look.
He was defeated.

1297
01:33:02,380 --> 01:33:07,500
The quality they had, on the night,
was too good for us.

1298
01:33:08,179 --> 01:33:10,699
That was the one, for us,
that hurt the most.

1299
01:33:10,819 --> 01:33:13,459
It took me quite some time to get over that.

1300
01:33:15,180 --> 01:33:17,740
We knew it would be historic to
win the treble in our first year

1301
01:33:17,859 --> 01:33:21,019
playing our brand of football,
with the players we had.

1302
01:33:21,139 --> 01:33:25,139
And after Leo made it 2-0,
we knew the trophy was ours.

1303
01:33:26,658 --> 01:33:28,698
It was exactly how I'd visualized it.

1304
01:33:29,340 --> 01:33:33,020
The ball looped over the goalkeeper and in.

1305
01:33:33,139 --> 01:33:35,579
It was an unforgettable moment.

1306
01:33:55,259 --> 01:33:58,819
It was a statement of greatness
to begin your reign with a treble.

1307
01:33:58,938 --> 01:34:02,658
But the football reached its
high point at Wembley in 2011,

1308
01:34:02,778 --> 01:34:06,458
before which, Johan Cruyff said
that Guardiola should probably ...

1309
01:34:06,578 --> 01:34:08,298
walk away from the job ...

1310
01:34:08,418 --> 01:34:12,418
after three hugely intense
years and ten trophies lifted.

1311
01:34:12,539 --> 01:34:14,539
Everything had come at a cost.

1312
01:34:14,657 --> 01:34:17,177
A significant part of that cost

1313
01:34:17,297 --> 01:34:20,697
was that Pep was now getting on
far less well with his employers,

1314
01:34:20,818 --> 01:34:24,018
given that Joan Laporta had
ended his presidential reign,

1315
01:34:24,137 --> 01:34:28,217
and the new guy, Sandro Rosell,
had taken over.

1316
01:34:28,338 --> 01:34:33,018
In his final year,
Guardiola was frustrated and tired.

1317
01:34:33,138 --> 01:34:36,338
Given the burnout that we
saw in him in year four,

1318
01:34:36,458 --> 01:34:39,698
I'll bet you that Guardiola thinks
that Cruyff had it exactly right.

1319
01:34:40,978 --> 01:34:42,258
Pep had become very uptight.

1320
01:34:42,377 --> 01:34:45,497
He stressed about things
that hadn't bothered him before.

1321
01:34:45,618 --> 01:34:50,538
We played a pre-season game
at the Dallas Cowboys stadium,

1322
01:34:52,057 --> 01:34:55,697
and I overheard Guardiola
talking to Puyol and Piqué.

1323
01:34:56,137 --> 01:34:59,097
It was an unimportant pre-season friendly ...

1324
01:34:59,217 --> 01:35:04,017
but Guardiola raised his voice to them.

1325
01:35:05,176 --> 01:35:09,736
When I saw that, I said to Andrés Iniesta,

1326
01:35:09,857 --> 01:35:11,897
"He's leaving. This is his last year."

1327
01:35:14,097 --> 01:35:16,417
Even geniuses make mistakes
and Pep definitely got that wrong ...

1328
01:35:16,537 --> 01:35:20,377
because it felt like
we didn't matter to him anymore.

1329
01:35:21,857 --> 01:35:26,657
We didn't know what was going on with Pep,

1330
01:35:26,777 --> 01:35:31,017
which caused some uncertainty within the group.

1331
01:35:32,016 --> 01:35:36,176
Pep usually renewed his
contract in February or March,

1332
01:35:36,295 --> 01:35:39,135
but February passed with no news.

1333
01:35:39,257 --> 01:35:43,057
Then March passed and we
still didn't know anything.

1334
01:35:44,656 --> 01:35:46,936
I really struggled to
understand what was happening.

1335
01:35:49,337 --> 01:35:53,977
And we had a few bust-ups about it.

1336
01:35:54,095 --> 01:35:58,015
That year, if Pep had told me
to jump from the Camp Nou stands,

1337
01:35:58,136 --> 01:36:02,376
I'd have sprinted down the steps.
I wouldn't have jumped !

1338
01:36:03,855 --> 01:36:06,135
When you work with the same
coaching staff for so long,

1339
01:36:06,255 --> 01:36:09,015
relationships change.

1340
01:36:09,134 --> 01:36:13,694
It's very difficult to maintain
the dynamic and to keep on winning.

1341
01:36:13,815 --> 01:36:17,455
We won the Copa del Rey
Final in his last game,

1342
01:36:17,575 --> 01:36:21,615
and it was the perfect end to his time with us.

1343
01:36:29,454 --> 01:36:33,414
That day everyone got to see
the team he had built again.

1344
01:36:34,374 --> 01:36:37,214
After 30 minutes, we were leading 3-0 ...

1345
01:36:37,333 --> 01:36:43,773
against the best Athletic Bilbao side in years.

1346
01:36:44,334 --> 01:36:47,814
Signing off by winning the
Copa del Rey in that style ...

1347
01:36:47,935 --> 01:36:51,655
on his last night in charge
should have been the perfect send-off,

1348
01:36:51,774 --> 01:36:55,974
but he walked away with a
distinctly bittersweet feeling.

1349
01:36:57,174 --> 01:37:01,494
Mostly because he felt ill-treated
and under-appreciated.

1350
01:37:09,894 --> 01:37:15,054
My lasting memory of that cup
final is a sense of sadness.

1351
01:37:15,173 --> 01:37:20,933
It was the end of something wonderful,
so it's normal to feel sad.

1352
01:37:21,494 --> 01:37:24,214
But there was something else that troubled me.

1353
01:37:24,334 --> 01:37:30,294
The attempts to demolish and
destroy everything we'd achieved.

1354
01:37:30,412 --> 01:37:34,092
I don't understand the motivation.
Things had gone well and we'd won !

1355
01:37:34,214 --> 01:37:37,534
Surely that's what you hold onto,
that's what you remember.

1356
01:37:37,653 --> 01:37:41,813
But no, they didn't care
about what we'd achieved.

1357
01:37:41,933 --> 01:37:46,373
All they did was focus on the negatives.

1358
01:37:47,094 --> 01:37:49,214
I think the club's got a problem.

1359
01:37:51,853 --> 01:37:53,293
Barça is a bit strange in that respect.

1360
01:37:53,412 --> 01:37:56,292
I've learned the most important
thing in life is to be grateful ...

1361
01:37:56,414 --> 01:38:00,334
to the people who make
a difference in your life.

1362
01:38:00,452 --> 01:38:04,452
After everything he'd done for the club,

1363
01:38:04,573 --> 01:38:07,853
Guardiola didn't get
the recognition he deserved.

1364
01:38:14,693 --> 01:38:16,333
Announcing his departure at a press conference,

1365
01:38:16,451 --> 01:38:19,851
and then immediately revealing
who would replace him ...

1366
01:38:19,973 --> 01:38:25,213
in front of the whole squad
and the board members ...

1367
01:38:25,972 --> 01:38:29,492
I don't think it was the right way
to say goodbye to the boss.

1368
01:38:31,813 --> 01:38:33,933
On the advice of the director
of football, Andoni Zubizarreta,

1369
01:38:34,772 --> 01:38:37,132
and after consulting the board,

1370
01:38:37,253 --> 01:38:40,653
I can announce that the next
Barça coach will be Tito Vilanova.

1371
01:38:43,851 --> 01:38:45,931
I think they should build a
statue of Pep at the Camp Nou.

1372
01:38:47,053 --> 01:38:49,733
In the president's box.

1373
01:38:49,853 --> 01:38:51,453
That's what I think anyway.

1374
01:38:53,132 --> 01:38:55,172
The best way to remember Guardiola's Barça

1375
01:38:55,292 --> 01:38:58,092
is to put on a DVD and
watch the matches we played

1376
01:38:58,212 --> 01:39:02,132
during his four seasons here as manager.

1377
01:39:11,930 --> 01:39:13,090
He invented a new way of playing.

1378
01:39:13,172 --> 01:39:15,372
He had a special group of players,

1379
01:39:15,492 --> 01:39:17,732
but he knew exactly what to do with them.

1380
01:39:18,371 --> 01:39:20,651
He followed the philosophy of his maestro,

1381
01:39:20,771 --> 01:39:22,771
the man who taught us all, Johan Cruyff.

1382
01:39:47,330 --> 01:39:49,010
It's a bit like the best cars.

1383
01:39:49,130 --> 01:39:52,050
Cruyff was the first great model, the Mark 1

1384
01:39:52,170 --> 01:39:53,730
and Pep is the Mark 2.

1385
01:39:56,330 --> 01:40:02,170
But I think Xavi will be in the same league

1386
01:40:02,290 --> 01:40:04,250
when he returns as coach.

1387
01:40:04,370 --> 01:40:09,970
When he comes back, he'll be the Mark 3.

1388
01:40:11,411 --> 01:40:15,691
In my father's mind,
he was always el listo de la clase,

1389
01:40:15,809 --> 01:40:19,089
the intelligent one of the class,
the clever guy.

1390
01:40:19,210 --> 01:40:21,490
The only problem will be
that when already now ...

1391
01:40:21,611 --> 01:40:25,051
everybody is pumping this up,
then the pressure's too high.

1392
01:40:25,409 --> 01:40:27,769
But if he follows his way,
little by little,

1393
01:40:27,889 --> 01:40:30,249
calm, like Pep did,
then you're ready for it.

1394
01:40:30,370 --> 01:40:33,290
And I hope Xavi one day will do that.

1395
01:40:34,650 --> 01:40:35,970
Barça's future needs to be in the hands ...

1396
01:40:36,089 --> 01:40:42,169
of someone with Xavi's talent and vision.

1397
01:40:45,209 --> 01:40:49,929
I've got no doubt that he'll
be back as a coach one day.

1398
01:40:50,049 --> 01:40:54,329
He deserves the chance ...

1399
01:40:54,450 --> 01:40:56,570
because of the type of player he was here.

1400
01:40:56,690 --> 01:40:58,850
He'll make an amazing manager.

1401
01:40:58,968 --> 01:41:02,368
As a player he saw the whole
picture from the pitch.

1402
01:41:02,489 --> 01:41:05,129
I'm sure from the side-lines,
he'll see it even clearer.

1403
01:41:05,249 --> 01:41:06,769
He'll be back one day.

1404
01:41:06,890 --> 01:41:12,330
I don't know when but he wants to come back.

1405
01:41:12,449 --> 01:41:17,449
And he has the same football philosophy as Pep.

1406
01:41:19,649 --> 01:41:21,209
The world is watching us because
they see we're different.

1407
01:41:21,328 --> 01:41:23,928
And they're right, we are.

1408
01:41:24,048 --> 01:41:26,728
But now we have a huge responsibility

1409
01:41:26,847 --> 01:41:29,927
to ensure that all of this continues to grow.

1410
01:41:33,089 --> 01:41:36,449
The one thing that has never changed

1411
01:41:36,567 --> 01:41:41,327
in all my years here is
the way we play football.

1412
01:41:41,968 --> 01:41:47,328
Players come and go,
but the philosophy never changes.

1413
01:41:49,168 --> 01:41:50,648
We believe in this philosophy,

1414
01:41:50,768 --> 01:41:55,688
which is improved every year
and by each Barça manager.

1415
01:41:55,808 --> 01:41:57,728
But the day things start to go wrong,

1416
01:41:57,848 --> 01:42:01,088
and let's hope that isn't
for another 200 years,

1417
01:42:01,208 --> 01:42:04,048
but if it happens,
we must never consider ...

1418
01:42:04,167 --> 01:42:06,887
changing our playing style.

1419
01:42:07,007 --> 01:42:10,367
Our unique philosophy
should never change. Never.

1420
01:42:46,128 --> 01:42:47,328
This documentary can't end ...

1421
01:42:47,406 --> 01:42:51,126
without asking you about your
memories of those four years.

1422
01:42:53,286 --> 01:42:57,606
When I think about that time it fills
me with nostalgia and happiness.

1423
01:42:58,607 --> 01:43:03,087
In my opinion, during those four years,

1424
01:43:03,206 --> 01:43:08,486
all the stars aligned at the perfect moment.

1425
01:43:09,087 --> 01:43:14,847
The fundamental reason for the success
was the immense talent of those players.

1426
01:43:16,285 --> 01:43:17,925
It's them who have to perform.

1427
01:43:18,045 --> 01:43:22,245
I like to use golf as an example,
because as managers we're caddies.

1428
01:43:22,366 --> 01:43:26,286
We hand the club to the player,
but they get the ball on the green,

1429
01:43:26,405 --> 01:43:27,725
and put it in the hole.

1430
01:43:41,804 --> 01:43:44,444
Everyone played their part
and everyone knew their role.

1431
01:43:44,566 --> 01:43:48,046
They all knew Messi was the best
and no one wanted to take his crown.

1432
01:43:48,165 --> 01:43:51,525
The home-grown players
had very important roles.

1433
01:43:51,644 --> 01:43:53,884
The foreign players played their part too.

1434
01:43:54,004 --> 01:43:57,684
It all unfolded naturally
without having to tell players,

1435
01:43:58,445 --> 01:44:04,165
"You have to do this
or you have to do that."

1436
01:44:04,726 --> 01:44:07,926
The roles within the group were shared out,

1437
01:44:08,045 --> 01:44:10,485
and if anyone didn't like it, they left.

1438
01:44:11,724 --> 01:44:17,604
That was how we built something special
and kept it going for so long.

1439
01:44:29,364 --> 01:44:30,404
I think we provoked an emotional reaction.

1440
01:44:30,525 --> 01:44:35,085
When you remember titles,
really they're just numbers

1441
01:44:35,206 --> 01:44:36,526
and nothing more.

1442
01:44:36,644 --> 01:44:41,524
But there were a lot of people
who really loved watching us play.

1443
01:44:58,284 --> 01:44:59,764
We all remember the two
Champions League finals,

1444
01:44:59,883 --> 01:45:01,203
especially the second one.

1445
01:45:01,724 --> 01:45:04,764
For around 20-25 minutes,

1446
01:45:04,883 --> 01:45:09,403
from the 46th minute until our third,
we were tremendous.

1447
01:45:09,524 --> 01:45:13,484
That was a perfect illustration
of how we wanted them to play.

1448
01:45:13,604 --> 01:45:17,404
We were a young group of coaches ...

1449
01:45:18,163 --> 01:45:20,843
trying to convince a team of unique players ...

1450
01:45:22,043 --> 01:45:26,283
to do something different and
it worked well for four years.

1451
01:45:33,724 --> 01:45:36,164
People become managers for
all kinds of different reasons.

1452
01:45:36,284 --> 01:45:38,524
My motivation is tactics.

1453
01:45:38,642 --> 01:45:40,562
That's why I became a coach,

1454
01:45:40,922 --> 01:45:43,922
to dissect the game and find solutions.

1455
01:45:44,803 --> 01:45:45,963
The basic concept,

1456
01:45:46,082 --> 01:45:53,082
which Johan Cruyff injected into our veins ...

1457
01:45:53,642 --> 01:45:56,202
many years ago,

1458
01:45:56,322 --> 01:46:00,282
was that doing the simple things
well gave you a 75% chance of winning.

1459
01:46:00,402 --> 01:46:03,162
And one of the simplest
things is passing the ball.

1460
01:46:03,282 --> 01:46:05,482
After that, things get more complicated.

1461
01:46:05,602 --> 01:46:07,962
But the pass is what unites the group.

1462
01:46:08,761 --> 01:46:13,281
The ball is moved around the pitch
from one player to another.

1463
01:46:13,402 --> 01:46:18,002
Everyone participates in the
game plan by making that pass.

1464
01:46:18,481 --> 01:46:22,241
That's what we worked on from day one.

1465
01:46:35,761 --> 01:46:38,881
I'm often asked if it was
the greatest team ever ...

1466
01:46:39,001 --> 01:46:40,721
or one of the greatest.

1467
01:46:40,842 --> 01:46:45,442
And it's a question that doesn't have an answer.

1468
01:46:45,561 --> 01:46:49,921
It's like a new book that's published,
is it good or not ?

1469
01:46:50,042 --> 01:46:53,402
Or a new film that premieres,
is it any good ?

1470
01:46:53,521 --> 01:46:55,361
We'll know the answer in 25 years.

1471
01:46:55,482 --> 01:46:58,122
It depends if people are still talking about us.

1472
01:46:58,242 --> 01:47:01,802
If after 25 years we're still
taking about a book, it's good.

1473
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,680
If we're still watching a film
in 25 years time, it must be good.

1474
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,480
The same will happen with our team.

1475
01:47:06,601 --> 01:47:12,121
But were we better than Sacchi's Milan
or Pelé's Brazil, or Johan's Ajax ?

1476
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:17,040
Everyone will have their opinion,

1477
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:21,160
which they'll defend passionately.

1478
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,720
I would tell you that my team was brilliant,

1479
01:47:23,841 --> 01:47:26,801
but Johan would argue that his team was better.

1480
01:47:26,921 --> 01:47:30,361
And Arrigo Sacchi would say
the same about his Milan side.

1481
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:31,799
And we'd all be in the right.

1482
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,360
But if they remember us in 25 years time,

1483
01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:36,600
they won't talk about the titles we won,

1484
01:47:36,721 --> 01:47:38,201
they'll talk about how we played.

1485
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,880
If they remember us,
it's because they enjoyed watching us.

1486
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,480
But that's the big mystery.
Will we be remembered or not ?