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Get him! Get him!

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Ready!

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You're going down.
Set. Hike.

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Damn.

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Did that hurt?

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Get up, you ain't no
carpet king, you're a queen.

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Get up!

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Time-out.

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Get up, man.

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I think his nose is broke.

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You can get him for me.
Finish this thing off.

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You gonna finish the game.

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Next touchdown wins, we
got the ball, so you man up.

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I'm a little banged up here.

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You know why you got
25 years?

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Yeah, because I refused
to testify

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against anybody whose
last name ended in a vowel.

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No, you got 25 years
because you're a quitter.

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When things get tough, you
look for shortcuts. You quit.

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You quit on your family,
you quit on your friends,

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you quit on God.

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And that's because
you ain't got no heart.

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Yeah, that's right,
I called you a quitter.

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What you gonna do about it?

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If that don't sit well
with you, prove me wrong.

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Barry Minkow, for once in your
life, don't take a shortcut.

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Take the pain and help
this team win.

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Well, you know, I think we're
all born with certain genes.

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I think
Barry was missing one.

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It's got to be something
deep-seated in Barry.

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Barry did what he did. I mean,
nobody really put him up to it.

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Barry could convince
anybody of anything,

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and he was very,
very good at it.

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From the moment
he shook my hand...

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He's a sociopath.

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I thought this was
the entrepreneur of the year.

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He was almost incapable
of not lying.

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And, you know,
I give him credit for this

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tremendous scam
that he pulled at that time.

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He had so much charisma...

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I've never seen anybody
like Barry.

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...that you believed
everything. Everything.

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He could sell ice to Eskimos.

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Barry reinvented himself.

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You know, for a young guy, it was
pretty amazing what he pulled off.

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He didn't want
his lights turned off.

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He didn't want to be his dad.

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- Hey, pally boy.
- Hey, Pop.

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How'd you do today?

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Ah, not bad.

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Outfitted the YMCA down the street
with a half a dozen gym fans.

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Half a dozen?

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Good thing it gets hot
in the Valley, huh?

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That's pretty good, right?

55
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Let me give you
some advice, kiddo.

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Never work for somebody else
if you can help it.

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Now get in the house
and wash up.

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Move.
Jeez.

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Go away.

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My commission check
is gonna be larger this week.

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Enough to pay
the gas bill?

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It'll be fine.

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Mom said no MTV.

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Ow!

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Knock it off!
Shut up.

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What are you talking
about? I'm doing the best I can.

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They do this every night.
When is this going to stop?

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When someone in this family figures
outhow to earn some real money.

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That was it. He wanted
to make money and that was it.

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He wanted millions.

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That's what drove him.

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He wanted the girls.

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He wanted people
to love and adore him.

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And the girls only wanted
you if you had a red Ferrari.

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Hi, Mindy.

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Hi...
Barry.

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I'm telling you, man,
I'm making things change.

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That so, big guy?

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Yeah, that's so.
Check it out.

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When'd that happen?

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That's five days a week
for three months at the gym.

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See, look, I might not have
Matt Maple's money.

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I can't throw a football
like Bobby Biddelo.

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No. But I can look like Lou Ferrigno.

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I'm going after
the three Ps, Mikey.

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What are the three Ps?

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Position plus possession
equals popularity.

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I'm gonna build a new Barry.

89
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Well, how's all this
supposed to happen?

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I'm gonna start a business,
I'm gonna keep working out,

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I'm gonna make a ton of money

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and then I'm gonna have
everything that I want.

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He wanted to be a star.

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It could have been
a fabulous story.

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Barry! Get to it!

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See, the way it goes is you
work off your membership fee

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by working off
your membership fee.

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Hi, Mom.

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Excuse me, could you just
hold on for one second.

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I'll be right back with you.

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Sweetheart, listen,
I heard on your last run

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you brought the degreaser,
you brought the sanitizer,

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but, Barry, you forgot the...

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Scotchgard.
Scotchgard.

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You can never, never
forget that. I know.

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Barry, we want to sell
Scotchgard. Scotchgard. I know.

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Listen, you gotta get on this one,
kiddo. You're a terrific worker

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but I don't want my boss
to think... Excuse me...

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You don't want
your boss to think...

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I just don't want
my boss to think

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that you're just here
because of me.

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That would be terrible.
That would be nepotism.

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I'm a good worker.
Just...

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Yeah, go back and work.
Go, go, go.

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Sorry.

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Hello?

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Whoa.

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That guy juices.

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What, you mean steroids?

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No, like, I think
he drinks a lot of V8.

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Yeah, I mean steroids.

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Awesome.

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Hey, how do you get so big?

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How do you think?

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Is there...

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Is there any way I could
buy some 'roids off of you?

127
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How you gonna pay, kid?

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I got a part-time job
cleaning carpets. I can pay.

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I'll tell you what.
I'll swap you.

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A carpet cleaning
for some 'roids.

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Deal.

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We're done, kid.

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Nice job, kid.

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Definitely worth
some of these.

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Thanks.

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Hey, um...

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Hey, what is all this stuff?

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Just call it my inventory.

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Ah. Gotcha.

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Yeah, as soon as I figure out
how to get my own steam cleaner,

141
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I'm gonna go
into business for myself.

142
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How much do
one of them things cost?

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Like a thousand bucks.

144
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Tell you what.

145
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A thousand cash for equipment.
Six bills for capital.

146
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Now you're in business, kid.

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Um...

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Oh, you'll pay me back.

149
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Interest only. $200 a week.

150
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What are you,
some kind of loan shark?

151
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I'm a businessman, kid.

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You want in?

153
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Yeah. Yeah, I want in.

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Yes, hello, there.

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I just had my carpets cleaned
by this company called ZZZZ Best.

156
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It's owned by this
wonderful kid who is only 16.

157
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You should do a story
on him.

158
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All I see on the news are stories
about kids on drugs and in gangs.

159
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This young man
is a role model.

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What's that?

161
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All right.

162
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Yes, ZZZZ Best.

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Four Zs.
With four Zs.

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Okay. Thank you. Goodbye.

165
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Thank you, Grandma.
You're the best.

166
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What, you can't stay
and visit?

167
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I wish I could.
I've got so much to do.

168
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But I'll come by later.

169
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Can you make me some of that
spaghetti that you make so good?

170
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With the meatballs, too.

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I'm just so proud of my son.
He did this all himself.

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Can you make sure
the sign is in the shot?

173
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So, what's Barry's secret?

174
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Well, he's always been
highly motivated.

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Dad, stop.
No false modesty, son.

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I'd like to take this opportunity
and offer anyone who's watching

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a 50% discount if they
come down, right now.

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I will clean
your carpets personally.

179
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Dad will even help too! Do
you see what I'm talking about?

180
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I mean, he's brilliant!
Barry Minkow.

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Hey, Barry.

182
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Yo, Barr!

183
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Barry, my man!

184
00:11:06,834 --> 00:11:08,601
Hey, carpet dude!

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Hi.
Hey.

186
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Well, do you like
your meal?

187
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It was really good.

188
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Are you ready to go?
Yeah.

189
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I don't really like
horror movies that much,

190
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but do you wanna see Blade
Runner with me this weekend?

191
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Yeah? Awesome.

192
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Two hundred and forty bucks!

193
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Don't sweat it, man.
Business is good!

194
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But you're doing this
every weekend.

195
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Okay, will you look around you
for a second?

196
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Dude,

197
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I'm finally in. We are finally
in. It's totally worth it.

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You can't do this to me.
I haven't done anything wrong.

199
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Barry. Sit down.

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We didn't realize
that you were underage.

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In the state of California,

202
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the signature card
that opens a checking account,

203
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it's a legally
binding document.

204
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It's a contract.

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And you cannot sign
a legally binding

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business check
if you're only 16.

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00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:31,251
Now, like I said, if you want to
get your father in here to co-sign...

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My father?

209
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It's my company, okay?

210
00:12:36,824 --> 00:12:38,558
I started this thing,
not my dad.

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You know this!
Barry, listen.

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I'm not one
to stifle entrepreneurship.

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I'm impressed with what you've
accomplished, believe me.

214
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But this is the way
the system works.

215
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Now, I have no choice but to
close your account immediately

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and return
all outstanding checks.

217
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You said you were
impressed by me. Right?

218
00:13:02,015 --> 00:13:04,952
Then why can't you make
an exception for me?

219
00:13:05,085 --> 00:13:06,019
I'm sorry, kid.

220
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You've seen what I've done.

221
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I really am. I wish it
didn't have to be this way.

222
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But the rules are the rules.

223
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You can't break the rules.

224
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Look at me, kid.

225
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I can't let you
bounce checks on me.

226
00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:23,904
I know.

227
00:13:24,037 --> 00:13:25,939
And I've been
lettin' you skate.

228
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You owe me 800 bucks.

229
00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,147
I know.

230
00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:35,782
I know. Look, Victor, man,

231
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you know I'm in trouble
with these checking accounts.

232
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Okay? I would have to be crazy
to try to screw you.

233
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I wouldn't even be in business
if it wasn't for you, man.

234
00:13:45,492 --> 00:13:47,127
I owe you big.

235
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All I got to my name is
20 bucks. Just take it.

236
00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:54,601
Okay, enough.

237
00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:58,972
Okay, look.

238
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You pay me $500 cash
by Friday,

239
00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:05,045
I let the other $300 slide
for one more week.

240
00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:06,446
You got it?

241
00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:07,847
Thank you.

242
00:14:07,981 --> 00:14:10,417
Thank you, man.
I won't let you down.

243
00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:11,885
I promise.

244
00:14:13,253 --> 00:14:14,754
You better not.

245
00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:32,472
Mr. Barry.

246
00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:34,441
Ron, I need a money order

247
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for Sparkle Janitorial Supply
for 500 bucks.

248
00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:38,645
Coming right up.

249
00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:49,389
Hey, Ron,
you got a delivery!

250
00:14:49,522 --> 00:14:51,258
Hey, Barry, give me one sec.
I'll be right back.

251
00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:52,825
Yeah, yeah.

252
00:15:24,524 --> 00:15:26,293
Oh, God!

253
00:15:36,636 --> 00:15:37,971
Barry,
you feeling all right?

254
00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:40,974
Yeah... No, no,
I'm good, I'm good.

255
00:16:22,182 --> 00:16:24,417
I saw you on the news. You're
an impressive young man, Barry.

256
00:16:24,551 --> 00:16:26,019
How can I help you?

257
00:16:26,153 --> 00:16:29,156
Mr. Fitzgerald, I've been
to every bank n the area

258
00:16:29,289 --> 00:16:31,591
and no one will open a
business checking account for me

259
00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:32,992
because they say
I'm too young.

260
00:16:33,126 --> 00:16:34,961
Funny thing is,
I already had one open

261
00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:37,730
for over half a year before
anyone ever found out my age.

262
00:16:37,864 --> 00:16:41,668
I would have thought that I had
proven my ability to be responsible.

263
00:16:41,801 --> 00:16:46,206
You don't impress me as being
too young. You seem pretty mature.

264
00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:48,341
I get that all the time.

265
00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:50,143
Look, Mr. Fitzgerald,

266
00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,012
I've started a good business.

267
00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:54,547
And I know
what I'm capable of.

268
00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:55,982
I mean, I already have
seven employees,

269
00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:58,585
all of whom are paying taxes
on their wages.

270
00:16:58,718 --> 00:17:00,353
I'm simply a victim of my age.

271
00:17:00,487 --> 00:17:01,721
Well put.

272
00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:06,626
I just need someone
to take a small risk

273
00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,261
and put a little trust in me.

274
00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:15,402
Fine. I'll take the chance.

275
00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:19,906
But you'll need to keep me updated
twice a week on ZZZZ Best's status.

276
00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,710
Even though every newspaper and
TV show is keeping me posted.

277
00:17:23,843 --> 00:17:25,645
Here, I want you
to sign the bottom here.

278
00:17:25,778 --> 00:17:28,081
Of course.
I'll fill in the rest, okay?

279
00:17:32,652 --> 00:17:33,853
Thank you.
Congratulations.

280
00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,555
I won't let you down.

281
00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:44,931
What is this?

282
00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,066
What do you think, huh?
What is this?

283
00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,201
What?

284
00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:51,070
Dude!

285
00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:53,072
What is this?
Come on, baby.

286
00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:54,441
Jump in, let's go for a spin. What?

287
00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:56,443
How...

288
00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:59,946
How did you afford this, man?
We're not making any profits.

289
00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,748
Don't have to afford it.

290
00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:03,983
Just gotta cover
the monthly payments.

291
00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:07,687
Look, it's all about
appearances, my man.

292
00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:13,160
The way you look is the way
the world thinks you are.

293
00:18:13,293 --> 00:18:15,027
Speaking of appearances,

294
00:18:15,162 --> 00:18:17,364
there's a misprint
in the Yellow Pages ad.

295
00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:20,867
It says, "Serving the area
for over 10 years."

296
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,602
That's not a misprint.

297
00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:24,771
It's a business tactic.

298
00:18:24,904 --> 00:18:27,774
Everybody does it.
Nobody is going to check.

299
00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,242
What do they have to check?

300
00:18:29,376 --> 00:18:30,877
What, you think
anyone is gonna believe

301
00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:34,414
you started the business
when you were six years old?

302
00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:36,349
That's ambitious, man.

303
00:18:36,483 --> 00:18:39,852
Must have been tough balancing
nap time and making payroll.

304
00:18:39,986 --> 00:18:42,622
You wanna think?
Or you wanna drive?

305
00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:44,056
Let's drive, man.

306
00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:49,662
Fastest car on the market.

307
00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:53,065
Hold on.

308
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,045
I can't stay ahead of expenses no
matter how much business I bring in.

309
00:19:06,179 --> 00:19:07,747
Victor's payments
are killing me.

310
00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:19,759
Mikey...

311
00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:22,462
Mikey, Mikey, Mikey, Mikey.
Check this out.

312
00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:24,731
Yeah. What?

313
00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,866
Look at this.
Look, the checks...

314
00:19:29,436 --> 00:19:32,339
The checks from the NorthRidge
account haven't cleared yet.

315
00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:34,040
All right?

316
00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:37,710
So if I write a check from that
account into the second account,

317
00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,179
I can cover my shortage until I
can deposit more customer checks.

318
00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:41,714
And then I just run it
the other way

319
00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,082
when the NorthRidge account
is short.

320
00:19:43,216 --> 00:19:44,817
Then I never have to
keep the full amount

321
00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:46,719
as long as I deposit
the new money in time.

322
00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:48,755
Yeah. That's called
check kiting.

323
00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:50,189
Really?

324
00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:52,259
I thought I made that up.

325
00:19:52,392 --> 00:19:53,626
No, you did not.

326
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,861
Anyways, anyways,
it doesn't matter.

327
00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:56,296
Yeah, it does, it's illegal.

328
00:19:56,429 --> 00:19:57,196
It doesn't matter.

329
00:19:57,330 --> 00:19:58,598
It's only temporary.

330
00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:00,433
It's only until I can
square things up.

331
00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:02,034
'Cause kids, during the
summertime, are gonna work cheap.

332
00:20:02,168 --> 00:20:03,336
I can go after
more customers,

333
00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:04,904
I can do
more advertising and then...

334
00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:06,038
And then I can
pay it all off...

335
00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,307
It's gonna cost you
more money.

336
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,941
I can pay it all off!

337
00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:15,982
Everything's gonna be fine.

338
00:20:36,536 --> 00:20:37,870
Mikey!

339
00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:41,207
You're late.

340
00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:45,211
I know. I know.
I was at Victor's. Sorry.

341
00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:47,246
I had to pick up
some company letterhead.

342
00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:48,981
Letterhead?
Yeah, yeah.

343
00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:51,484
You know, for corporate
documents, that kind of thing.

344
00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:53,886
Did you get another loan?

345
00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:56,122
What do you mean,
did I get another loan?

346
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,824
What do you mean,
what do I mean?

347
00:20:57,957 --> 00:21:00,059
You got another loan?
How much was it? Yes. Yes.

348
00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:03,496
Four grand. But it's not a big
deal. Interest is like $500 a week.

349
00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:05,131
$500 a week! Barry... Okay,
hear me out. Hear me out.

350
00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:06,766
No, no, no.
Give me your hand.

351
00:21:06,899 --> 00:21:10,136
What? Half the reason I got the loan

352
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,573
is because I think that you

353
00:21:16,042 --> 00:21:17,777
deserve a bonus.

354
00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,412
Really?
Yeah, really.

355
00:21:19,546 --> 00:21:21,814
Come on, man.
You work your butt off.

356
00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,451
I just want you to know
I appreciate you.

357
00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:28,655
Go take out that cute little
girl I saw you with last week.

358
00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:30,089
I...

359
00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:33,826
I think you're gonna
like this place.

360
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,161
All right.

361
00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:01,921
Beats the garage, huh?

362
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,024
It's awesome, man.

363
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:06,693
Hey, Barry.

364
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,127
I'm up here, Pop.

365
00:22:15,001 --> 00:22:16,268
Well...

366
00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:19,205
Very nice.

367
00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:23,342
Impressive.

368
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,612
Son...

369
00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,581
You know
I am so proud of you.

370
00:22:30,082 --> 00:22:33,019
But I don't want you
to get in any trouble.

371
00:22:33,152 --> 00:22:35,121
And I just feel like...

372
00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:37,457
You're in over your head.

373
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:40,527
Dad, don't tell me
how to run my business.

374
00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:42,795
No, no, no. Your whole life
you've played it safe, okay?

375
00:22:42,929 --> 00:22:44,363
I'm taking my shot here.

376
00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:50,970
Hey...

377
00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:54,507
Why don't you come
work for ZZZZ Best?

378
00:22:54,641 --> 00:22:57,644
You can build up
my commercial accounts.

379
00:22:57,777 --> 00:23:00,346
I'll match your salary at Windy
City with a better commission.

380
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,881
I don't think
that's the best idea.

381
00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:03,349
Come on, Dad.
You've always been at jobs

382
00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:05,184
that didn't require
any talent.

383
00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:10,222
Come work for me.
Show me what you can do.

384
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,502
Come here.

385
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:25,304
Son...

386
00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:34,413
Hey, Dad?

387
00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:37,316
You start work Monday.

388
00:23:40,219 --> 00:23:41,754
See you later, Mr. Minkow.

389
00:23:41,888 --> 00:23:43,723
Yeah, see you, boys.

390
00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:48,928
That's our new
commercial manager.

391
00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:50,229
You have a sec?
Yeah.

392
00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:56,402
Look at that.

393
00:23:57,504 --> 00:23:58,505
So...

394
00:23:58,638 --> 00:24:01,741
I might not be smart enough
to get it,

395
00:24:01,874 --> 00:24:06,513
but Victor doesn't sell
cleaning equipment, right?

396
00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:08,981
No, but the banks
and insurance companies

397
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:10,282
don't need to know that.

398
00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:12,752
Right, so...

399
00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:17,890
We purchased 10 Crowell
Triple-Vac Dual Pump...

400
00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:20,226
Water-heated steam cleaners.

401
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,064
I don't know that brand.

402
00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:28,134
That's 'cause
they don't exist.

403
00:24:30,036 --> 00:24:31,270
Sounds good though, right?

404
00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:35,307
Yeah.

405
00:24:36,676 --> 00:24:38,110
Sounds good.

406
00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:40,613
Hey, Mike.

407
00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:42,114
From now on...

408
00:24:42,248 --> 00:24:44,416
"Mr. Minkow."

409
00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:49,121
Hey! If that isn't
the little...

410
00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:52,024
Look at you! Not so little
anymore. What happened to you?

411
00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:54,026
Hey, Uncle Joe.

412
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,362
Look at you.
Trying to look like you.

413
00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,598
I should be so lucky.

414
00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:03,002
Damn! Come here, I want to show
you something. Watch your step.

415
00:25:03,135 --> 00:25:05,137
What... What happened
to this place?

416
00:25:05,271 --> 00:25:06,873
Well, this one
was a flood.

417
00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:09,108
Hard to imagine you could
do anything with this, huh?

418
00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:11,678
It smells like the inside
of a Halloween costume.

419
00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:15,948
This is called
restoration work.

420
00:25:16,082 --> 00:25:17,316
Fires, floods...

421
00:25:17,449 --> 00:25:19,218
The insurance companies
contract it out

422
00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:22,955
to restore it
and make it new again.

423
00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:26,225
Big money. Big money.

424
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,595
This could be your future.

425
00:25:28,728 --> 00:25:30,697
Come on. I want to
show you something.

426
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,407
Wow. This is amazing.
Mmm-hmm.

427
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:46,579
Before and after. Not bad
for three weeks' work, huh?

428
00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:50,249
Look. Uncle Joe, I appreciate
you bringing me out here,

429
00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:53,720
but I'm just
a carpet cleaner.

430
00:25:53,853 --> 00:25:58,424
Yeah. So was I
when I started 35 years ago.

431
00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:03,095
You know, all the carpet
companies out there...

432
00:26:03,229 --> 00:26:05,064
All your competitors,
they all advertise

433
00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:07,266
for one big thing
that you don't.

434
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,869
Emergency water damage
restoration.

435
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:14,373
Water heater
busts in the house,

436
00:26:14,506 --> 00:26:16,408
water floods
the carpets everywhere.

437
00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:18,077
The first people called
are the carpet cleaners

438
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:19,979
who come in
and extract the water.

439
00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:23,482
Bingo! And you make millions.

440
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:30,189
If you're ever interested in that
kinda thing, just let me know.

441
00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:32,258
I'll help you
find some work.

442
00:26:50,142 --> 00:26:51,778
Are you insane?

443
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,681
You can't open
another office.

444
00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:56,649
Barry, you think that I don't know
that you're kiting checks again?

445
00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,951
This company is hanging on
by a thread.

446
00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:00,687
Relax.
And we both know...

447
00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:03,690
Relax! Okay? Everybody cheats a
little bit. It's not a big deal.

448
00:27:03,823 --> 00:27:05,057
It's a big deal.
It is a big deal.

449
00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:06,959
It's not.
It's not a big deal!

450
00:27:07,093 --> 00:27:10,396
Okay? I had to expand to generate
more cash to catch up on my...

451
00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:13,199
Barry, you can't run one
office on... Do not...

452
00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:17,036
Do not raise your...
Barry!

453
00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:19,872
Do not raise
your voice at me.

454
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,814
It's settled. All right?

455
00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:32,819
I already got the location
picked out.

456
00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,993
Look, everybody thinks I'm
some kind of hotshot now, man.

457
00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:45,932
Barry Minkow,
the young entrepreneur.

458
00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:49,936
I gotta keep that going.

459
00:27:50,937 --> 00:27:52,671
Mike, it's who I am now.

460
00:28:15,327 --> 00:28:20,166
With the debts and the divorce,
I really need the extra income.

461
00:28:20,299 --> 00:28:22,001
Great. Happy to help.

462
00:28:23,736 --> 00:28:25,471
Now, I need you to
mock up a few documents

463
00:28:25,604 --> 00:28:28,941
for a bloated insurance
company. So, don't feel bad.

464
00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:31,577
Feeling bad was not
something I was factoring in.

465
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:35,815
You do have the cash, right?

466
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,295
You're sure this was
one of your competitors?

467
00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:24,496
Yeah.

468
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:25,731
What did they steal?

469
00:29:25,865 --> 00:29:28,500
Four Crowell Triple Vac
steam cleaners.

470
00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:30,669
Yeah, but Barry,
even at 1,500 a piece,

471
00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:32,038
that doesn't equal $12,000.

472
00:29:32,171 --> 00:29:33,139
Water damage.

473
00:29:34,073 --> 00:29:35,207
"Water damage"?

474
00:29:35,341 --> 00:29:36,775
Yeah.

475
00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:39,511
See, when they broke in,
they set off the sprinklers,

476
00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,880
which caused water damage.

477
00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:43,382
These guys are trying to
put me out of business!

478
00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:45,384
But we fixed it.

479
00:29:45,517 --> 00:29:47,453
Because that's what we do.

480
00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:50,722
It's expensive.
Really?

481
00:29:50,857 --> 00:29:53,092
Yeah, it's called
"restoration work."

482
00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:54,827
In fact, ZZZZ Best is going to

483
00:29:54,961 --> 00:29:56,162
be awarded out
more restoration jobs

484
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,429
from other big companies

485
00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,866
as early as next week
and that...

486
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:01,968
That's where the real
growth opportunities are

487
00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,769
in the carpet-cleaning
industry.

488
00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:19,251
I think a little toast is in
order for the man of the hour.

489
00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:22,021
Dad, come on.
No, no, no.

490
00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:25,524
Here's to Barry
on your 18th birthday.

491
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:30,496
You're an adult,
well, legally anyway.

492
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:33,765
Now, you can get married,
even join the army

493
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,135
with or without our
permission. To my son, Barry...

494
00:30:36,268 --> 00:30:37,904
I am sorry to interrupt,

495
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:41,073
but you know how it is when
your father tries to be funny.

496
00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,042
Right...

497
00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:47,146
But I would like to say something.
I'd like to toast you, Barry.

498
00:30:49,648 --> 00:30:55,054
I am so proud
of your success.

499
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:58,824
Thank you, Mom.

500
00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:04,130
Cheers.
To ZZZZ Best, son.

501
00:31:04,263 --> 00:31:05,932
Cheers, guys.
Mazel tov.

502
00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:15,507
And so,
as we look forward

503
00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:17,543
to the excitement
of new lives,

504
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:19,211
we, the fresh-faced class...

505
00:31:19,345 --> 00:31:21,613
Man, I feel like
I don't even know you anymore.

506
00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,517
Come on.
Yeah you do, Mikey.

507
00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:30,122
Same old Barry. I'm just a
regular business now, that's all.

508
00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:33,525
But like Icarus,
who flew too high to the sun,

509
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:35,527
we need to keep watch,

510
00:31:35,661 --> 00:31:38,564
to keep level and not let the
temptations of our new freedom

511
00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:40,432
be the end of us.

512
00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,701
Come on.

513
00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:43,970
Who doesn't cheat
on their taxes

514
00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:45,437
or inflate
an insurance claim?

515
00:31:45,571 --> 00:31:47,974
Can we just enjoy graduation?

516
00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:51,443
I applaud you fellow students
on this day of rebirth...

517
00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:53,479
The answer is, everyone.

518
00:31:53,612 --> 00:31:55,081
And nobody gets hurt,
all right?

519
00:31:55,214 --> 00:31:58,050
So, don't come at me with
that self-righteous attitude.

520
00:31:58,184 --> 00:32:02,288
In fact, I think I deserve
a little thanks.

521
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:06,458
Really. You're running
flush now because of me.

522
00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:09,561
Congratulations to
the class of 1984!

523
00:32:35,421 --> 00:32:36,788
Damn it.

524
00:33:26,438 --> 00:33:27,906
Hey,
it's your favorite uncle.

525
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,241
Hey, Uncle Joe.
How are you?

526
00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:31,277
I'm good, kid. Listen.

527
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:34,046
I'm out there in the business
community and I'm hearing things.

528
00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,183
Like you're expanding too fast and
you can't possibly be profitable.

529
00:33:37,316 --> 00:33:39,551
Uncle Joe,
that's just jealous people

530
00:33:39,685 --> 00:33:42,054
using their stories as an
excuse for their mediocrity.

531
00:33:42,188 --> 00:33:44,823
Yeah, yeah. I'm hearing that, too. See?

532
00:33:44,956 --> 00:33:46,925
Okay. All right.
But be careful.

533
00:33:47,059 --> 00:33:50,162
You have to be a little bit of
a thief in business, I know that.

534
00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:52,631
But you don't want
to become a thief.

535
00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,901
Then you're not in business
anymore, you're just a crook.

536
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,007
There's a project
over in Tarzana

537
00:34:02,141 --> 00:34:04,076
and I have
an interested buyer.

538
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,345
He won't close on the sale
until I fix a rip in the carpet.

539
00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:07,646
I'll get someone
right on it.

540
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:09,315
No, no. He wants you.

541
00:34:09,448 --> 00:34:12,151
He wants to meet the
millionaire kid success story.

542
00:34:12,284 --> 00:34:15,754
Just be careful. I hear this
guy's connected. A real Mafioso.

543
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,123
I mean it.

544
00:34:20,426 --> 00:34:22,861
I read about you in
the Examiner, didn't I?

545
00:34:24,663 --> 00:34:25,931
Yeah, yeah.

546
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,334
Joe says you're a pro.

547
00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:29,835
That's my Uncle Joe.

548
00:34:32,671 --> 00:34:35,006
How do you do that, Barry?

549
00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:39,077
Pull down a profit like that?

550
00:34:39,211 --> 00:34:40,779
Cleaning carpet?

551
00:34:42,348 --> 00:34:43,749
I never heard of that.

552
00:34:45,484 --> 00:34:49,855
Well, Jack, the real money,
it's not in the carpet cleaning.

553
00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,090
It's in these things
called restoration jobs.

554
00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:53,392
Oh, yeah?

555
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,428
Like cleaning up
after an old fire?

556
00:34:56,562 --> 00:34:58,063
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

557
00:34:58,197 --> 00:35:01,300
Um, the jobs,
they come in through...

558
00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,001
Through these
insurance adjusters.

559
00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:05,171
My company, ZZZZ Best,
we got, like...

560
00:35:05,304 --> 00:35:07,406
We got three of these jobs
lined up right now.

561
00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:08,940
But I plan on expanding,

562
00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:13,579
because each job contract
is worth about 25 grand.

563
00:35:13,712 --> 00:35:15,381
That must be nice.

564
00:35:15,514 --> 00:35:17,783
Yeah, yeah.
It's really nice.

565
00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:19,117
You know, you have
these huge buildings

566
00:35:19,251 --> 00:35:21,753
with these complex
sprinkler systems

567
00:35:21,887 --> 00:35:25,023
and they go off inadvertently,
causing floods.

568
00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:27,393
You know,
and it's expensive to fix.

569
00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:32,631
If I had the money, there's
no limit to what I could do.

570
00:35:32,764 --> 00:35:35,100
How much?
A hundred grand.

571
00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:40,005
A hundred grand?
Just for clean

572
00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:41,907
No, no.
It's much more than that.

573
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,377
It's extracting the water,
dehumidifying the area,

574
00:35:45,511 --> 00:35:47,313
you know, padding and tack
strips, mold treatment.

575
00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,881
You see, all this requires
money, lots of money,

576
00:35:50,015 --> 00:35:51,917
and these worthless
insurance companies,

577
00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:54,486
they're notoriously slow
for these large payouts.

578
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:58,023
And see, that's what sets
me apart from my competition.

579
00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:00,492
Look, Jack,
how many carpet cleaners

580
00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:03,061
do you know in this business
that are well

581
00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:06,632
How much are you
gonna pull down right now?

582
00:36:06,765 --> 00:36:08,767
With these restorations?

583
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:12,204
These three?
Eighty grand. Profit.

584
00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:17,309
It's good. So give me proof.

585
00:36:17,443 --> 00:36:18,410
Proof?

586
00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:19,545
Yeah, proof of
the jobs, huh?

587
00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,079
A little accountability.
You know?

588
00:36:21,213 --> 00:36:23,615
I mean, I'll come in right
now. Fifty grand cash.

589
00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:25,951
You need money,
I'll raise money, you know.

590
00:36:26,084 --> 00:36:29,755
I'll talk to friends.
It's all numbers, Barry.

591
00:36:29,888 --> 00:36:31,156
"Numbers"?
It's just numbers.

592
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,660
Yeah, yeah, numbers.
It's all numbers.

593
00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:37,296
We come in,

594
00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:40,732
we come in for a lot more
than a hundred, you know.

595
00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:42,133
A lot more.

596
00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:47,205
We split profit,
you know? 50/50.

597
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,008
"50/50"?

598
00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:55,213
All the jobs.
If you're interested.

599
00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:02,521
Yeah. Yeah! Yeah, of course,
I'm interested.

600
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,998
The proof, the documents,
I can bring those by tomorrow.

601
00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:16,435
You want a drink?

602
00:37:17,836 --> 00:37:19,971
Nah, I don't drink.

603
00:37:21,139 --> 00:37:24,410
Good for you.
You're a smart kid.

604
00:37:31,517 --> 00:37:33,084
This is unacceptable.

605
00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,920
You don't understand.
No, no, you don't understand.

606
00:37:35,053 --> 00:37:38,357
You got those credit card
accounts because I vouched for you!

607
00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:40,726
Twenty-five thousand
in fraudulent accounts!

608
00:37:40,859 --> 00:37:42,528
Look it wasn't me! I swear!

609
00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:43,729
Barry.

610
00:37:43,862 --> 00:37:45,597
It was crooked
carpet cleaners! Look...

611
00:37:45,731 --> 00:37:48,367
They want me out of
business... Keep it down.

612
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,201
Look, they faked
the credit card slips

613
00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:52,638
so they could double-bill the
customers and make more money.

614
00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:54,272
What do you want me to do?

615
00:37:54,406 --> 00:37:56,107
I just found out about this
last night. I already fired them.

616
00:37:56,241 --> 00:37:57,743
Were you planning
on telling me?

617
00:37:57,876 --> 00:37:59,911
Yes... I guess...
You guess?

618
00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:03,482
Yes, yes, yes.
Of course I was planning on...

619
00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:07,152
Look, I'm a little
over my head here, Bill.

620
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:11,423
Mr. Fitzgerald, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.

621
00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:15,894
All right.

622
00:38:18,897 --> 00:38:21,967
I can keep your accounts open
for five business days.

623
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,069
You deposit $10,000
at that time

624
00:38:24,202 --> 00:38:26,071
and the rest five days
after that...

625
00:38:26,204 --> 00:38:27,305
I won't let you down.

626
00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:28,974
You better meet
these deadlines, Barry.

627
00:38:29,107 --> 00:38:30,476
Otherwise, I will
shut you down

628
00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:32,444
and I will bounce
all your checks.

629
00:38:35,947 --> 00:38:37,383
This is a joke to you, huh?

630
00:38:41,219 --> 00:38:42,421
That would put me
out of business.

631
00:38:42,554 --> 00:38:44,590
I know.
So it should motivate you.

632
00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:46,191
Now, get the hell out of here.

633
00:38:55,233 --> 00:38:57,536
Hey, I need your help.

634
00:38:59,371 --> 00:39:02,874
Look, we need to find a way to fake
some nonexistent restoration jobs.

635
00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:06,945
All right? I'm not talking
about staging a phony break-in.

636
00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:12,718
I'm talking about hundreds of thousands
of dollars in jobs that don't exist.

637
00:39:12,851 --> 00:39:14,252
Got any ideas?

638
00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:17,022
I can incorporate
a phony adjusting firm.

639
00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:21,126
A phony adjusting firm.

640
00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:26,932
So, what, it would fake the
jobs on the firm's letterhead?

641
00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:28,333
Yeah.

642
00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:33,138
That's great.
That's great! Okay.

643
00:39:33,271 --> 00:39:35,073
And in the meantime,
I'll work hard

644
00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:38,610
trying to get ZZZZ Best some
legitimate claims to cover your back.

645
00:39:38,744 --> 00:39:41,046
I'll catch you
in your office later.

646
00:39:41,179 --> 00:39:43,982
Okay, okay. Thank you.

647
00:39:44,115 --> 00:39:47,085
I really appreciate this. I wouldn't
ask you if it wasn't life or death.

648
00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,655
I got 100 employees
depending on me.

649
00:39:49,788 --> 00:39:51,056
Well, they're your problem.

650
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:53,158
I'm just doing this
for money, is all.

651
00:39:53,291 --> 00:39:54,560
As long as you do it.

652
00:40:06,004 --> 00:40:07,539
So, he's still standing there,

653
00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:09,675
in his underwear, holding
an identical toothbrush.

654
00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:12,644
So, I tell the guy,
as we always say at ZZZZ Best,

655
00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:15,481
"We don't just cut corners,
we clean them."

656
00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:22,353
Can I trust him?
Absolutely.

657
00:40:22,488 --> 00:40:25,256
So, let me explain to you
how a restoration job works.

658
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,825
All right, gorgeous woman.

659
00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:28,059
Come here.
You be the building.

660
00:40:28,193 --> 00:40:29,394
Stand here
next to me. All right?

661
00:40:29,528 --> 00:40:31,096
Come here! Come on. I'm...

662
00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:47,679
What about the Feds?

663
00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:50,248
Huh?

664
00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:52,584
Did they come see you yet?

665
00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:54,419
Who?
The FBI.

666
00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:58,590
The FBI... No.
No?

667
00:40:58,724 --> 00:41:00,291
No.

668
00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:06,164
Well... They might,
you know.

669
00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:08,166
They'll probably pay you
a visit.

670
00:41:09,835 --> 00:41:11,537
Ask questions about me.

671
00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:15,306
Well, if they do,
just say nothing more

672
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,776
than our arrangement,
you know?

673
00:41:19,244 --> 00:41:20,311
"Our arrangement"?

674
00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:22,313
Yeah, it's legitimate.

675
00:41:24,282 --> 00:41:26,151
You could prove that.

676
00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,155
Can't you?
Yeah, yeah.

677
00:41:30,288 --> 00:41:32,758
Of course.
Of course I can prove it.

678
00:42:13,999 --> 00:42:16,301
Hey, how you doing?

679
00:42:17,836 --> 00:42:19,404
How are you?
Hi.

680
00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:23,575
Hi. Hey, baby. I got a
present for you inside. Okay?

681
00:42:23,709 --> 00:42:25,911
Okay.
I'll be in in a second.

682
00:42:30,015 --> 00:42:31,617
Can I help you?

683
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:33,952
Yeah, you can. I'll
introduce myself to you first.

684
00:42:34,085 --> 00:42:36,454
I'm Special Agent Gamble. FBI.

685
00:42:39,257 --> 00:42:40,759
That's your girlfriend?

686
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,664
Yeah.
Very nice. Good luck.

687
00:42:45,797 --> 00:42:47,265
Thank you.

688
00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:52,804
Anyway, I'm here,
I'm investigating a Jack...

689
00:42:52,938 --> 00:42:53,905
Saxon.

690
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,574
Yes. Jack Saxon.

691
00:42:56,708 --> 00:42:58,343
I understand he's been
shaking you down

692
00:42:58,476 --> 00:43:00,111
on some loan
that he made you...

693
00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:02,047
He hasn't given me a loan,
he's a business consultant.

694
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:03,715
"Business consultant"?

695
00:43:07,352 --> 00:43:10,856
New house, huh?
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

696
00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:14,893
Look, we'd like you
to testify in a grand jury

697
00:43:15,026 --> 00:43:17,629
about your business deals
with this Saxon.

698
00:43:19,665 --> 00:43:21,767
With all due respect, why
would I testify against him?

699
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,501
He's been nothing
but a help to my company.

700
00:43:23,635 --> 00:43:25,070
I understand.
It's not...

701
00:43:25,203 --> 00:43:26,938
Barry? Come on inside.

702
00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:30,375
Come on.

703
00:43:30,508 --> 00:43:33,779
Sorry. Duty calls. It was nice
to meet you, Mr. Special Agent...

704
00:43:33,912 --> 00:43:35,380
Gamble.
Gamble.

705
00:43:36,147 --> 00:43:38,216
Thank you, Mr. Mincow.

706
00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:40,218
It's Minkow.

707
00:43:40,351 --> 00:43:43,088
There was a cockiness,
I was cocky. Barry was cocky.

708
00:43:43,221 --> 00:43:46,324
Everything we did just
seemed to fall nto place.

709
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:50,561
It was almost like we were beinglooked
over by some guardian angel.

710
00:43:50,696 --> 00:43:53,264
In fact, there were more
people that didn't believe Barry

711
00:43:53,398 --> 00:43:55,233
than the ones that did.

712
00:43:55,366 --> 00:43:56,968
But he only needed a couple.

713
00:43:57,102 --> 00:43:59,270
Altogether,
I think the FBI said

714
00:43:59,404 --> 00:44:02,674
I created about 23,000
false documents

715
00:44:02,808 --> 00:44:05,744
to convince Wall Street,
NASDAQ and the SEC

716
00:44:05,877 --> 00:44:09,580
that we were doing about $400
million worth of restoration work

717
00:44:09,715 --> 00:44:12,150
when in reality,
we were doing none.

718
00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:13,584
Barry was working with

719
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,486
the investment banking firm
of Payne Cameron

720
00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,422
to take ZZZZ Best public.

721
00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:22,560
However, Barry and Jack Saxon had
a side scheme to pump and dump,

722
00:44:22,694 --> 00:44:24,996
acquiring ZZZZ Best stock
at five cents apiece,

723
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:29,367
selling at the market price
and violating securities laws.

724
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:32,738
The biggest scam we pulled
off was the Sacramento job.

725
00:44:32,871 --> 00:44:36,207
Barry staged a walkthrough of
a newly-restored office building

726
00:44:36,341 --> 00:44:37,976
to fool
the Wall Street auditors

727
00:44:38,109 --> 00:44:39,544
into believing that ZZZZ Best

728
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,546
had done
all of the restoration work.

729
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,115
We hadn't done
any of that work.

730
00:44:44,249 --> 00:44:47,285
He even bribed the doorman a
hundred bucks to make it look good.

731
00:44:47,418 --> 00:44:49,888
Hey, Mr. Minkow!
Nice to see you again!

732
00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:52,323
Bob, how are you? How's
the wife? Still alive.

733
00:44:52,457 --> 00:44:54,659
That's too bad.
Say hi to the kids for me.

734
00:44:54,793 --> 00:44:56,427
You got it!

735
00:44:56,561 --> 00:44:59,697
Just like family. Everyone
at ZZZZ Best is like family.

736
00:44:59,831 --> 00:45:03,101
A con man has a
tremendous amount of charisma.

737
00:45:03,234 --> 00:45:04,803
Smell it and say
to the woman,

738
00:45:04,936 --> 00:45:09,040
"Ma'am, that's not dog urine.
That's your three-year-old."

739
00:45:09,174 --> 00:45:12,143
What's this ladder doing here? Mike,
please find out who was here last.

740
00:45:12,277 --> 00:45:14,645
Doesn't even look like there
was any water damage at all.

741
00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:16,848
Well, that's the point.

742
00:45:16,982 --> 00:45:20,018
See, he doesn't take
your money. You give it to him.

743
00:45:20,151 --> 00:45:23,254
Gentlemen, attached, you
will find our project summary.

744
00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:25,556
As you can see, we went
with the cost-effective

745
00:45:25,690 --> 00:45:27,258
nylon carpet to save time,

746
00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:30,428
and, most importantly,
your money.

747
00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,965
It's theft
with a smile.

748
00:45:39,704 --> 00:45:42,841
Once the Wall Street auditors
signed off on our financials,

749
00:45:42,974 --> 00:45:46,211
Payne Cameron
took ZZZZ Best public.

750
00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:52,217
By the end of the day, we had a
market cap of well over $300 million.

751
00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:55,153
Truth be told,
we were worth almost nothing.

752
00:45:55,286 --> 00:45:58,356
This is tremendous. Where's Barry? Dad.

753
00:45:58,489 --> 00:45:59,991
Hey, Barry, we saw you
on Oprah.

754
00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:01,993
Hey! I stole the show, right?
Listen, I want Carson.

755
00:46:02,127 --> 00:46:04,796
I want to be on Johnny Carson!
What's this?

756
00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:06,197
It's the Tribune! Read it!

757
00:46:06,331 --> 00:46:08,867
"Happy Birthday, Barry Minkow.

758
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,603
"Your stock is worth
$100 million!

759
00:46:12,737 --> 00:46:15,673
"You control a $300 million
public company"!

760
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:21,379
Hey, everybody!
Enough with this cheap stuff.

761
00:46:21,512 --> 00:46:23,081
Hey, you, I don't even
know you.

762
00:46:23,214 --> 00:46:25,183
Go buy me the most expensive
champagne you can find.

763
00:46:25,316 --> 00:46:26,351
Five hundred bottles.

764
00:46:26,484 --> 00:46:28,253
Drinks on me, everybody!

765
00:46:36,494 --> 00:46:38,864
So, you're
the birthday kid, huh?

766
00:46:38,997 --> 00:46:40,398
Uh...

767
00:46:40,531 --> 00:46:44,335
I'm not a kid. All of these
people here work for me.

768
00:46:44,469 --> 00:46:45,871
Well, I don't work for you.

769
00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:49,407
Okay, who are you?

770
00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:51,742
My name is Sam.

771
00:46:54,345 --> 00:46:56,347
Sam, that's a guy's name.

772
00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:58,016
You better be careful.

773
00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:02,053
I might just decide this
party is a bore and leave.

774
00:47:02,187 --> 00:47:03,654
Who invited you?

775
00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:07,725
Happy birthday, Barry.
See you later.

776
00:47:10,261 --> 00:47:11,429
Whoa. Babe.

777
00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:13,431
Dude, stop. Stop.

778
00:47:13,564 --> 00:47:15,033
Where's Mindy?

779
00:47:16,701 --> 00:47:18,636
Okay. Have a good night,
buddy.

780
00:47:21,006 --> 00:47:24,009
You've got all these
people fooled, don't ya?

781
00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:27,913
If you've got a problem
with me,

782
00:47:28,046 --> 00:47:30,148
you canalways stop
picking up your check.

783
00:47:30,281 --> 00:47:36,021
You can't have me fooled,
Barry. You can't have me fooled.

784
00:47:36,154 --> 00:47:40,658
You know what the difference
is between you and me, Mike?

785
00:47:40,791 --> 00:47:44,562
I lead. You follow.

786
00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:46,197
You're embarrassing.

787
00:48:01,612 --> 00:48:02,680
Baby.

788
00:48:02,813 --> 00:48:04,615
Hey, birthday boy.
Close your eyes.

789
00:48:04,749 --> 00:48:06,484
Why?
Close your eyes.

790
00:48:06,617 --> 00:48:08,119
Okay.

791
00:48:10,021 --> 00:48:11,289
What is this?

792
00:48:11,422 --> 00:48:14,025
A little toy
for the love of my life.

793
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:15,493
What? No. Wait, Barry.

794
00:48:15,626 --> 00:48:17,495
It's your birthday.
It's not my birthday.

795
00:48:17,628 --> 00:48:18,997
Because I love you,
that's why.

796
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:20,131
What are you doing?

797
00:48:20,265 --> 00:48:21,699
Listen... Listen to me. Now.

798
00:48:21,832 --> 00:48:24,869
I want you to take your new
car, grab a friend right now,

799
00:48:25,003 --> 00:48:26,737
and I want you to go for a
little joyride, all right?

800
00:48:26,871 --> 00:48:29,274
And I don't want you come back
until this is on empty.

801
00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:32,877
Right now? Right now!
Right now. Go, go, go.

802
00:48:33,011 --> 00:48:35,813
Thank you. I love you. You're welcome.

803
00:48:56,501 --> 00:48:57,735
Hello there.

804
00:48:59,337 --> 00:49:00,972
What took you so long?

805
00:49:04,909 --> 00:49:08,179
It's my house,
you wait for me.

806
00:49:08,313 --> 00:49:09,847
We'll see about that.

807
00:49:33,638 --> 00:49:36,607
Ma! What are you doing here?

808
00:49:36,741 --> 00:49:38,543
I'm sorry, I just wanted
to see you.

809
00:49:38,676 --> 00:49:40,145
I wanted to congratulate you,

810
00:49:40,278 --> 00:49:42,780
but you were surrounded by
so many presents and people,

811
00:49:42,913 --> 00:49:45,250
I didn't get a chance... I'm
in the bathroom, for God sakes.

812
00:49:45,383 --> 00:49:50,721
But I wanted to congratulate
you on, on the article.

813
00:49:50,855 --> 00:49:53,258
Dad give you that?
Yeah.

814
00:49:53,391 --> 00:49:55,693
You come over to tell me
you're proud of me?

815
00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,264
It's very impressive.

816
00:50:02,467 --> 00:50:04,869
"Impressive." I think it's
a bit more than impressive...

817
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:08,106
Come on, you've been praying for
this your whole life, haven't you?

818
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:15,413
Yeah, I was praying for this
but I was praying to my vanity.

819
00:50:15,546 --> 00:50:16,514
What's that supposed to mean?

820
00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:18,316
Please listen. I wanted...

821
00:50:18,449 --> 00:50:20,851
I wanted so much more than
what your father could provide.

822
00:50:20,985 --> 00:50:22,887
I didn't realize
what a good man he was.

823
00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:25,990
"A good man." A good man
pays the water bill.

824
00:50:26,124 --> 00:50:27,758
A good man keeps
the lights on in the house.

825
00:50:27,892 --> 00:50:30,928
A good man will take care of
and provide for his family

826
00:50:31,062 --> 00:50:34,165
no matter what the cost. I...
Mom... Mama... I'm a good man.

827
00:50:34,299 --> 00:50:37,168
It's very hard to be
a good man, Barry.

828
00:50:37,302 --> 00:50:41,872
You're really doing this to me
on my birthday, Mom?

829
00:50:42,006 --> 00:50:45,243
What are you doing? You
want to turn on all this now?

830
00:50:45,376 --> 00:50:49,347
I am the most successful thing
to ever come from this family.

831
00:50:51,449 --> 00:50:52,883
All right? This is everything
that you've wanted.

832
00:50:53,017 --> 00:50:54,719
This is everything
that Dad's wanted.

833
00:50:54,852 --> 00:50:56,687
This is everything that I've
wanted for my entire life.

834
00:50:56,821 --> 00:51:00,591
I mean, come on, I control
a $300 million company.

835
00:51:00,725 --> 00:51:02,860
When I was downstairs, blowing
out my birthday candles,

836
00:51:02,993 --> 00:51:05,496
I couldn't even think of anythingto
wish for, because I already have...

837
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:07,198
You don't have anything.

838
00:51:07,332 --> 00:51:10,301
You don't have anything,
because you don't have morality!

839
00:51:12,337 --> 00:51:13,704
I don't have...

840
00:51:16,641 --> 00:51:18,709
You don't have God.

841
00:51:19,644 --> 00:51:21,112
"God"?

842
00:51:24,615 --> 00:51:29,053
How much is God? I'll buy God.

843
00:51:59,384 --> 00:52:02,387
No, no, no.

844
00:52:05,290 --> 00:52:06,691
Look, this is ancient history.

845
00:52:06,824 --> 00:52:08,526
The banks and my investors
know about this.

846
00:52:08,659 --> 00:52:11,128
A few dishonest carpet cleaners
false-billed some customers.

847
00:52:11,262 --> 00:52:12,630
I fired them
and paid everyone back.

848
00:52:12,763 --> 00:52:14,665
I don't see
what the problem is.

849
00:52:14,799 --> 00:52:18,002
The problem is that stock
prices respond to news reports.

850
00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:20,104
And your stock is
already down half a point.

851
00:52:20,238 --> 00:52:22,039
There's a lot of pressure
to sell the shorts, Barry...

852
00:52:22,173 --> 00:52:25,443
Okay. Well, then hold them
off! Okay? Forget the shorts!

853
00:52:27,378 --> 00:52:28,846
I'm gonna...

854
00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:30,748
I'm issuing a press release
for this afternoon

855
00:52:30,881 --> 00:52:32,250
that'll clear
this whole thing up.

856
00:52:32,383 --> 00:52:34,985
Our stock will be back up
to normal in no time.

857
00:52:37,522 --> 00:52:39,324
I have to go.
I'll call you back.

858
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:42,993
First Bank of
Santa Barbara is

859
00:52:43,127 --> 00:52:45,896
calling in their $7 million
loan because of the article.

860
00:52:49,267 --> 00:52:51,369
What about NorthRidge
National? The same.

861
00:52:54,305 --> 00:52:56,140
That's nine million bucks,
Mikey.

862
00:52:56,274 --> 00:52:58,075
Barry, there's one more thing.

863
00:53:00,511 --> 00:53:02,347
Saxon sold all of his shares.

864
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,514
He what?

865
00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:07,818
Okay.

866
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,489
Mike, I need you to do
something for me, all right?

867
00:53:11,622 --> 00:53:14,492
I need you to draft
a press release, okay?

868
00:53:14,625 --> 00:53:17,495
Say that Payne Cameron has fully
investigated all of these charges

869
00:53:17,628 --> 00:53:19,397
and cleared ZZZZ Best
of any wrongdoing.

870
00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,098
Are you kidding me?

871
00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:24,469
Just do it.

872
00:53:31,409 --> 00:53:32,843
Amy?

873
00:53:33,644 --> 00:53:34,712
Amy!

874
00:53:36,414 --> 00:53:37,548
Amy!

875
00:53:37,682 --> 00:53:38,749
People keep
calling us, Barry.

876
00:53:38,883 --> 00:53:40,485
Thank you
for the observation.

877
00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:43,921
Amy, now listen, I need you...
I need you to...

878
00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:48,359
I need you to schedule a press
conference for this afternoon, okay?

879
00:53:48,493 --> 00:53:50,194
How do I do that?

880
00:53:50,328 --> 00:53:52,930
Time to earn
your paycheck, Amy. Go!

881
00:53:58,436 --> 00:53:59,537
This is Barry.

882
00:54:07,244 --> 00:54:11,181
Hey! Look on
the bright side. All right?

883
00:54:11,316 --> 00:54:12,883
At least they're only talking
about credit card fraud,

884
00:54:13,017 --> 00:54:15,720
not the restoration jobs,
right?

885
00:54:15,853 --> 00:54:18,222
Mr. Minkow,
can you comment on why

886
00:54:18,356 --> 00:54:20,325
your stock went down
four points today?

887
00:54:20,458 --> 00:54:22,627
Absolutely. See, that was a
reaction to the LA Times story

888
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,330
about a past problem we had with
some dishonest carpet cleaners.

889
00:54:25,463 --> 00:54:27,532
The banks and our investors
already knew about this.

890
00:54:27,665 --> 00:54:32,102
But is it true that the SEC has
ordered an investigation of ZZZZ Best?

891
00:54:32,236 --> 00:54:34,472
I'm unaware of
any such investigation.

892
00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:36,307
Your prospectus states that

893
00:54:36,441 --> 00:54:39,510
you completed a $7 million
restoration project in Sacramento

894
00:54:39,644 --> 00:54:42,246
and yet, ZZZZ Best never filed
a permit for such construction.

895
00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:45,350
And in fact, ZZZZ Best doesn't
even hold a contractor's license.

896
00:54:45,483 --> 00:54:46,951
How do you explain that?

897
00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:52,757
I'm going to have to refer that
question to our legal staff.

898
00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:54,291
You know,
that's all for today.

899
00:54:54,425 --> 00:54:56,427
I'm so sorry. I have to go.
Thank you all.

900
00:54:56,561 --> 00:54:59,397
Mr. Minkow, how do you feel
about Payne Cameron resigning?

901
00:55:01,432 --> 00:55:03,167
We have
more questions, Mr. Minkow.

902
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:07,338
We are here, live, on ZZZZ
Best's property. Barry Minkow...

903
00:55:18,516 --> 00:55:21,251
I can't believe
that Payne Cameron resigned.

904
00:55:21,386 --> 00:55:23,921
What did you think
was going to happen, Barry?

905
00:55:28,025 --> 00:55:29,694
What's that supposed to mean?

906
00:55:30,961 --> 00:55:34,699
It's over, man. It's over.

907
00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:36,567
No, it's not.

908
00:55:36,701 --> 00:55:40,371
No, it's not over. I can fix this. Okay

909
00:55:40,505 --> 00:55:41,972
I can fix this
just like I fixed everything.

910
00:55:42,106 --> 00:55:43,508
If I fixed it before
I can fix it...

911
00:55:43,641 --> 00:55:46,043
Barry, you can't fix this.
Yes, I can!

912
00:55:47,612 --> 00:55:49,046
Do you still not get it?

913
00:55:50,415 --> 00:55:52,617
You can't climb out
of this one, Barry.

914
00:55:54,985 --> 00:55:57,722
What do you know, huh, Mike?

915
00:55:59,323 --> 00:56:02,993
You have no idea what it takes
to build something like this.

916
00:56:03,127 --> 00:56:05,963
Yeah... You know,
actually, I do.

917
00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:07,698
You know...

918
00:56:07,832 --> 00:56:13,938
All it takes is an
incredible ability to lie.

919
00:56:14,071 --> 00:56:17,442
I mean,
that's all you did, Barry.

920
00:56:17,575 --> 00:56:20,745
You're a phony.
You used everyone.

921
00:56:22,046 --> 00:56:23,481
I used people?

922
00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:25,850
You used people.

923
00:56:25,983 --> 00:56:29,454
You used me for money,
and popularity.

924
00:56:29,587 --> 00:56:31,489
You sucked me dry, man.
Are you serious?

925
00:56:31,622 --> 00:56:33,290
Absolutely!

926
00:56:33,424 --> 00:56:36,594
You know, for somebody so
smart, you can be really stupid.

927
00:56:36,727 --> 00:56:38,095
You...

928
00:56:39,497 --> 00:56:41,432
You are a loser!

929
00:56:41,566 --> 00:56:43,868
You betrayed me. You were a loser
when I met you in high school.

930
00:56:44,001 --> 00:56:45,536
I'm done.
You're a loser now,

931
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:47,071
and you'll always be a
loser! I'm done with you.

932
00:56:47,204 --> 00:56:49,574
I'm done with you.
Barry.

933
00:56:49,707 --> 00:56:51,776
I'm done with you!

934
00:56:54,011 --> 00:57:00,017
You lying, self-centered, backstabbing
son of a bitch. I'm done with you!

935
00:57:16,701 --> 00:57:18,469
Payne Cameron's team
was pretty angry.

936
00:57:18,603 --> 00:57:20,237
They said
the press release was a lie.

937
00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:23,474
They said they never
investigated the charges.

938
00:57:26,043 --> 00:57:27,444
Is that true?

939
00:57:32,483 --> 00:57:34,418
Anyway, the phone's ringing
off the hook.

940
00:57:34,552 --> 00:57:39,690
The Journal, the Times,
everyone wants to speak with you.

941
00:58:07,552 --> 00:58:11,922
Barry, what do you
want me to do?

942
00:58:12,056 --> 00:58:13,758
I'll be back in a hour.

943
00:58:25,269 --> 00:58:30,474
Mr. Minkow,
you are a dangerous man.

944
00:58:30,608 --> 00:58:33,978
You do not have a conscience.

945
00:58:34,111 --> 00:58:39,984
You have been convicted of 57
counts of fraud, Mr. Minkow,

946
00:58:40,117 --> 00:58:47,925
and you are hereby ordered to
serve a term of 25 years in jail.

947
00:58:48,058 --> 00:58:50,027
And you are further ordered

948
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,331
to make restitution of $26
million to the individuals,

949
00:58:54,464 --> 00:58:57,201
some of whom
you see here today,

950
00:58:57,334 --> 00:59:02,873
whose lives you have severely
impacted by your actions...

951
00:59:03,007 --> 00:59:10,347
The banks and the companies you
pulled into your elaborate scheme.

952
00:59:14,418 --> 00:59:16,186
This court is adjourned.

953
00:59:47,184 --> 00:59:49,119
You know,
the 2.5 million people

954
00:59:49,253 --> 00:59:51,155
that are busting
the seams of our prisons,

955
00:59:51,288 --> 00:59:54,058
both state and federally
across the U. S.,

956
00:59:54,191 --> 00:59:56,393
all of us had one thing
in common.

957
00:59:56,526 --> 00:59:58,462
None of us ever planned
on being there.

958
01:00:00,064 --> 01:00:03,233
We all started
with the best of intentions.

959
01:00:03,367 --> 01:00:06,336
I just wanted to be accepted.

960
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:12,342
But it was that vehicle that got me
that acceptance that swallowed me whole.

961
01:00:14,244 --> 01:00:18,082
You see, as far back as I can
remember, I was dubbed "the whiz kid,"

962
01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:21,485
and I had everything
I ever wanted.

963
01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:24,722
Until it all came
crashing down.

964
01:00:24,855 --> 01:00:27,958
Until I realized that
my whole life was a con.

965
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,730
One big giant con.

966
01:00:32,863 --> 01:00:37,467
Barry was compelled, compelled
to play himself in the film,

967
01:00:37,601 --> 01:00:41,571
because that's the only way he
could reach the final completion

968
01:00:41,706 --> 01:00:43,607
of being the hero
in his own story.

969
01:00:43,741 --> 01:00:47,244
It was not enough to have an
A- list actor. It had to be him.

970
01:00:47,377 --> 01:00:49,914
The acting that Barry did
in the film,

971
01:00:50,047 --> 01:00:52,216
was, I thought,
very, very, very good.

972
01:00:52,349 --> 01:00:55,252
I know when he wanted to
make this movie...

973
01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:57,888
There again, I said, "Barry,
be very, very careful."

974
01:00:58,022 --> 01:01:00,257
I certainly advised him
not to play himself.

975
01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:02,592
I said,
"You're making a mistake."

976
01:01:02,727 --> 01:01:05,963
Sorry. Hold on. There you go.

977
01:01:08,866 --> 01:01:10,634
There we go.

978
01:01:12,236 --> 01:01:14,138
Mind if I smoke?

979
01:01:14,271 --> 01:01:15,472
No, go ahead.

980
01:01:15,605 --> 01:01:17,541
I don't smoke.
I mean, not anymore.

981
01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:20,845
I was just curious what a
preacher felt about that.

982
01:01:20,978 --> 01:01:23,881
But now, unfortunately,
I'm hooked on these.

983
01:01:24,014 --> 01:01:28,552
I got to go to rehab
for these. Want one?

984
01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:31,121
No.
It's the red one.

985
01:01:31,255 --> 01:01:32,556
Go ahead. No.

986
01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:35,726
What are you thinking about?

987
01:01:36,761 --> 01:01:37,728
Nah.

988
01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:40,765
Peanut.

989
01:01:40,898 --> 01:01:41,999
What's that?

990
01:01:42,132 --> 01:01:43,901
James "Peanut" Long.

991
01:01:44,034 --> 01:01:46,670
The reason they call me
the Jailhouse Preacher.

992
01:01:46,804 --> 01:01:51,208
Oh. You're gonna tell me
how you found Jesus?

993
01:01:51,341 --> 01:01:53,277
I didn't find Jesus.

994
01:01:53,410 --> 01:01:57,581
He found me in the form of
a 250-pound black guy.

995
01:02:12,596 --> 01:02:14,631
Not bad for a guy your size.

996
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:17,467
Size ain't nothing.

997
01:02:18,502 --> 01:02:20,337
The body is your temple.

998
01:02:21,605 --> 01:02:25,976
Muscles ain't strength.

999
01:02:31,515 --> 01:02:33,517
Real strength is in here.

1000
01:02:35,619 --> 01:02:40,290
You know, the most
dangerous part of your story

1001
01:02:40,424 --> 01:02:42,226
is that throughout
the whole ordeal

1002
01:02:42,359 --> 01:02:43,760
you actually
convinced yourself

1003
01:02:43,894 --> 01:02:46,630
that you were helping
hundreds of employees,

1004
01:02:46,763 --> 01:02:48,332
when in reality,
you were just...

1005
01:02:48,465 --> 01:02:51,035
Helping myself.
That's all I was doing.

1006
01:02:51,168 --> 01:02:55,139
Hindsight is 20/20,
and look where it got me.

1007
01:02:55,272 --> 01:02:57,541
Locked up in a prison cell.

1008
01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,978
Well, we're both locked up.

1009
01:03:01,111 --> 01:03:04,281
Difference is, I'm at
peace with what I've done.

1010
01:03:04,414 --> 01:03:05,715
And I'm getting there.

1011
01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:07,717
You're pretending
to get there.

1012
01:03:10,187 --> 01:03:11,355
You don't think I'm sincere?

1013
01:03:11,488 --> 01:03:13,790
I think you're trying
to find the Lord,

1014
01:03:13,924 --> 01:03:15,592
so you can hang out
with the Jesus freaks

1015
01:03:15,725 --> 01:03:19,129
instead of the skinheads
to make it in here.

1016
01:03:19,263 --> 01:03:21,465
Whatever.
Yeah. Whatever.

1017
01:03:21,598 --> 01:03:24,835
Why do you come to church
on Sunday

1018
01:03:24,969 --> 01:03:29,239
Is it because you're really
trying to change your life?

1019
01:03:29,373 --> 01:03:31,641
Or is it just another
Barry Minkow con?

1020
01:03:35,779 --> 01:03:37,747
One thing to remember
is the fraud artist

1021
01:03:37,882 --> 01:03:40,050
doesn't see himself
as a criminal.

1022
01:03:40,184 --> 01:03:44,021
The fraud is merely a means
to a well-justified end.

1023
01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:47,057
Once the scheme works,
everybody gets paid off,

1024
01:03:47,191 --> 01:03:48,725
nobody gets hurt.

1025
01:03:49,459 --> 01:03:50,794
Voila.

1026
01:03:51,628 --> 01:03:54,464
Okay, let's move on here.

1027
01:03:56,934 --> 01:04:01,238
You know as well as I do, when
the devil comes at you at first,

1028
01:04:01,371 --> 01:04:05,242
he looks good, sounds good,
feels good.

1029
01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:09,546
Then, when it's too late,
the beast comes out.

1030
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,515
You got that right.

1031
01:04:13,183 --> 01:04:14,751
Where were you 11 years ago?

1032
01:04:15,785 --> 01:04:18,655
Well, I had a lot of
growing up to do.

1033
01:04:18,788 --> 01:04:23,093
Like I said,
ain't no accidents in life.

1034
01:04:23,227 --> 01:04:25,829
We bought shares
for five cents apiece,

1035
01:04:25,963 --> 01:04:27,464
then dumped them on the market

1036
01:04:27,597 --> 01:04:29,866
when it hit 12 and 13 bucks.

1037
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,502
That was the part
that was illegal.

1038
01:04:32,636 --> 01:04:35,772
So, it was Saxon that got you
involved in the penny stocks, right?

1039
01:04:35,906 --> 01:04:38,142
And that's when he turned
his Wall Street connections

1040
01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:40,777
onto the stock,
they bought blocks of it,

1041
01:04:40,911 --> 01:04:42,712
the price shot through
the roof

1042
01:04:42,846 --> 01:04:46,250
and I was worth
millions instantly.

1043
01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:47,851
Insider trading.

1044
01:04:56,526 --> 01:04:57,861
Hey!

1045
01:04:58,428 --> 01:04:59,663
Hey!

1046
01:05:01,065 --> 01:05:03,800
Hey, you need to
leave him alone.

1047
01:05:03,934 --> 01:05:05,902
Yeah? You need to
mind your own business.

1048
01:05:06,036 --> 01:05:07,571
Hey, I don't want any trouble.

1049
01:05:08,672 --> 01:05:10,807
I said
mind your own business.

1050
01:05:10,941 --> 01:05:13,543
I will when you let him go.

1051
01:05:13,677 --> 01:05:15,345
Too bad.
Can't you hear?

1052
01:05:15,479 --> 01:05:17,547
Finish your shower. I said
take a walk, man. Take a walk.

1053
01:05:17,681 --> 01:05:19,950
I don't think so.
Don't think so?

1054
01:05:22,386 --> 01:05:27,057
I know I'm not seeing
what I think I'm seeing.

1055
01:05:30,327 --> 01:05:36,266
'Cause if you're trying to hurt
him, you're trying to hurt me.

1056
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,701
Let's get out of here.

1057
01:05:43,573 --> 01:05:45,909
Lord Jesus,
I want to thank you

1058
01:05:46,043 --> 01:05:48,878
for making me
a God-fearing man.

1059
01:05:49,013 --> 01:05:51,648
And having me
not beat anyone's ass.

1060
01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:54,851
In Jesus' name, Amen.

1061
01:06:01,725 --> 01:06:03,593
I'm proud of you, whiz kid.

1062
01:06:04,461 --> 01:06:05,795
You did all the work.

1063
01:06:05,929 --> 01:06:08,332
I don't know why
you'd be proud of me.

1064
01:06:08,465 --> 01:06:10,067
Changing.

1065
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,304
You helped a weaker brother
who was outnumbered.

1066
01:06:14,438 --> 01:06:19,409
Shows that you're changing from
your selfish-ass, self-centered ways.

1067
01:06:19,543 --> 01:06:23,780
Remember. The Lord always
looks out for the underdog.

1068
01:06:25,782 --> 01:06:29,286
I don't know if it
was Peanut or the broken nose.

1069
01:06:29,419 --> 01:06:33,057
I guess God has a way
of taking care of the details.

1070
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:39,896
And it was at this moment that
life took on new clarity for me.

1071
01:06:40,030 --> 01:06:42,699
See, to win the game,
I had to stay in the pocket,

1072
01:06:42,832 --> 01:06:45,001
and face the pain.

1073
01:06:45,135 --> 01:06:48,705
It was then I learned
that to win in life

1074
01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:51,741
meant no more backing down.

1075
01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:54,711
No more shortcuts.

1076
01:06:55,712 --> 01:06:57,847
No more compromises.

1077
01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:00,384
No more lies.

1078
01:07:04,254 --> 01:07:05,889
And no more cons.

1079
01:07:36,453 --> 01:07:38,488
How you feeling?

1080
01:07:38,622 --> 01:07:42,426
I question whether some of
the stuff he did was for the movie

1081
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:44,060
or the story of the movie.

1082
01:07:44,194 --> 01:07:46,496
I never felt better.
Thank you.

1083
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:49,299
I question whether Peanut
was a real person or not.

1084
01:07:49,433 --> 01:07:51,401
It's a pretty good throw.

1085
01:07:51,535 --> 01:07:54,771
I don't think Barry
could throw a football nine feet.

1086
01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:57,141
Truth plus time equal trust.

1087
01:07:57,274 --> 01:08:01,945
A lot of truth, over a long
period of time equals trust.

1088
01:08:02,078 --> 01:08:04,948
And no shortcuts to that
equation either, you know?

1089
01:08:14,858 --> 01:08:19,329
Yeah, well,
thanks for the time.

1090
01:08:24,268 --> 01:08:26,536
Like I said
from the beginning,

1091
01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:29,639
I don't want to spend the rest
of my life in witness protection.

1092
01:08:29,773 --> 01:08:34,344
I'm not going to testify against
Mr. Saxon, not now, not ever.

1093
01:08:34,478 --> 01:08:36,146
Excuse me.

1094
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,815
I never felt that
Barry was rehabilitated.

1095
01:08:38,948 --> 01:08:42,352
I believe his
transformation was real.

1096
01:08:42,486 --> 01:08:47,257
Everyone in prison knew
that if you found Jesus

1097
01:08:47,391 --> 01:08:51,795
that would look good on your
record to maybe get early release.

1098
01:08:51,928 --> 01:08:54,097
Truth plus time equal trust.

1099
01:08:54,231 --> 01:08:58,968
A lot of truth, over a long
period of time equals trust.

1100
01:08:59,102 --> 01:09:01,738
And no shortcuts to that
equation either, you know.

1101
01:09:05,275 --> 01:09:09,279
All right. We've heard
the testimony.

1102
01:09:09,413 --> 01:09:14,150
Now, it's time to decide based
on Mr. Minkow's present character.

1103
01:09:27,497 --> 01:09:31,435
You know, he came
out of prison raring to go.

1104
01:09:31,568 --> 01:09:35,205
But I didn't see it coming
with the church, quite honestly.

1105
01:09:35,339 --> 01:09:40,577
Mr. Minkow, we have
gone through your application

1106
01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:43,046
and enjoyed your guest sermon,

1107
01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:48,685
but now we'd like to hear the
answer to the following question.

1108
01:09:48,818 --> 01:09:50,554
Why should we hire you?

1109
01:09:53,823 --> 01:09:56,025
Well, on paper,
you shouldn't.

1110
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,362
Especially when you
consider the fact that

1111
01:09:58,495 --> 01:10:01,865
the other 199 applicants
aren't convicted felons.

1112
01:10:06,970 --> 01:10:09,839
If you hire me,
I can promise you one thing,

1113
01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:12,576
that no one will work harder,
if for no other reason

1114
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:16,480
than out of gratitude for
being given the opportunity

1115
01:10:16,613 --> 01:10:18,815
to pastor such a great church.

1116
01:10:21,818 --> 01:10:24,454
You see, I'm naive enough
to believe that

1117
01:10:24,588 --> 01:10:28,057
if you want to find the best
employee, the best place to find one

1118
01:10:28,191 --> 01:10:30,527
is someone who's
just come out of prison,

1119
01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:32,296
who didn't fail jail.

1120
01:10:33,497 --> 01:10:36,433
Who owes society
for what they've...

1121
01:10:38,502 --> 01:10:40,437
I've done.

1122
01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:46,410
And what better way for a church to
show their belief in the gospel of grace

1123
01:10:46,543 --> 01:10:51,214
than have a broken vessel
like me proclaim that truth

1124
01:10:51,348 --> 01:10:53,583
from the pulpit
of this very church.

1125
01:10:53,717 --> 01:10:57,921
And from a marketing
standpoint, imagine a slogan,

1126
01:10:58,054 --> 01:10:59,623
"Community Bible Church,

1127
01:10:59,756 --> 01:11:03,627
the only church where the
pastor is far worse than you."

1128
01:11:07,464 --> 01:11:09,966
I'll tell ya, I don't
know if you ever saw him in church,

1129
01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:12,936
in front of his congregation,
he was masterful.

1130
01:11:13,069 --> 01:11:15,605
I mean, he had them
in the palm of his hands.

1131
01:11:15,739 --> 01:11:18,041
Thank you. Nice to meet you.

1132
01:11:20,744 --> 01:11:22,145
Hi.
Hi.

1133
01:11:22,278 --> 01:11:24,748
Nice to meet you.
Thank you for coming.

1134
01:11:24,881 --> 01:11:28,952
First time here? Yes.
Wonderful sermon, Pastor Minkow.

1135
01:11:29,085 --> 01:11:31,721
Pastor Barry, please.
And this is my wife Lisa.

1136
01:11:31,855 --> 01:11:33,156
Hi, it's a pleasure
to meet you.

1137
01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:35,892
Hi, I'm Ellen Scott
and this is my husband Don.

1138
01:11:36,025 --> 01:11:37,527
Don, it's good to meet you.

1139
01:11:37,661 --> 01:11:39,863
We drove down from Santa
Barbara. Santa Barbara?

1140
01:11:39,996 --> 01:11:43,132
Well, my sermons don't merit that kind
of sacrifice, but thank you anyway.

1141
01:11:43,266 --> 01:11:46,135
We're here
for another reason.

1142
01:11:48,372 --> 01:11:53,877
The past 10 years, we put all our
retirement savings in a hedge fund.

1143
01:11:54,010 --> 01:11:57,046
About $250,000.

1144
01:11:57,180 --> 01:12:00,550
I earned that money, working
31 years as a longshoreman.

1145
01:12:00,684 --> 01:12:07,156
Now we're worried about the fund
and thought you could check it out.

1146
01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:08,892
Ma'am, I'm sorry,
I'm a pastor.

1147
01:12:09,025 --> 01:12:11,528
I don't really know a
whole lot about hedge funds.

1148
01:12:11,661 --> 01:12:16,332
I'm really sorry. I...
Look, why are you concerned?

1149
01:12:16,466 --> 01:12:19,035
The manager just moved
his office to the Bahamas.

1150
01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:20,870
How long
have they been around?

1151
01:12:21,004 --> 01:12:25,675
Twenty years. They're worth around
$800 million, about 2,000 investors.

1152
01:12:25,809 --> 01:12:27,844
Twenty years, $800 million...

1153
01:12:27,977 --> 01:12:30,013
Sounds like you don't have a
whole lot to worry about there.

1154
01:12:30,146 --> 01:12:34,851
Please, would you check on it?
I brought the prospectus.

1155
01:12:34,984 --> 01:12:37,320
Why me? I'm not an expert
in these kind of things.

1156
01:12:37,454 --> 01:12:41,525
Everything was fine until I
tried to withdraw the money.

1157
01:12:41,658 --> 01:12:46,496
They've been telling me that
it's in process for three months.

1158
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:51,334
I told my nephew about it
and he suggested I see you.

1159
01:12:51,468 --> 01:12:55,338
Your nephew.
Who's your nephew?

1160
01:13:01,911 --> 01:13:03,079
Mike?

1161
01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:07,050
Mike

1162
01:13:08,852 --> 01:13:11,555
You look great.
You look great.

1163
01:13:11,688 --> 01:13:13,590
Not even you can
pull off that lie.

1164
01:13:13,723 --> 01:13:17,393
Well, I'm not exactly winning
any beauty contests myself.

1165
01:13:17,527 --> 01:13:19,095
How you been?

1166
01:13:19,228 --> 01:13:21,831
I'll be a lot better if you tell
me you can help out my uncle.

1167
01:13:21,965 --> 01:13:23,366
Yeah, well...

1168
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:27,203
This hedge-fund guy, Lewis,
right, he's telling me

1169
01:13:27,336 --> 01:13:30,674
he's getting monthly gains
of 1.5% to 3.5%.

1170
01:13:30,807 --> 01:13:34,711
Yeah, I don't think anybody's
quite that good.

1171
01:13:34,844 --> 01:13:36,212
Hedge fund, I...

1172
01:13:36,345 --> 01:13:37,981
You know, I got that letter
you wrote to me from prison,

1173
01:13:38,114 --> 01:13:39,949
apologizing for what you did.

1174
01:13:40,083 --> 01:13:43,319
Were you lying then
or are you lying now?

1175
01:13:43,453 --> 01:13:47,390
Look, Mike, I'm not
the same guy I was before.

1176
01:13:47,524 --> 01:13:50,794
I'm married. I got the
church. I got twins.

1177
01:13:50,927 --> 01:13:53,830
I teach the FBI in fraud
prevention in Quantico. I...

1178
01:13:53,963 --> 01:13:57,567
I don't really want to hear about
the good deeds of my old schoolmates.

1179
01:13:57,701 --> 01:13:59,603
You can tell me you're working
with lepers on an island,

1180
01:13:59,736 --> 01:14:03,072
my opinion of you
wouldn't change, Barry. Okay?

1181
01:14:03,206 --> 01:14:06,042
I'll believe the change
when I see it.

1182
01:14:06,175 --> 01:14:09,713
Anybody who's ever been in a financial
dealing with me has lived to regret it.

1183
01:14:09,846 --> 01:14:11,280
You know that.

1184
01:14:11,414 --> 01:14:14,050
Yeah, I'll take my chances.

1185
01:14:14,183 --> 01:14:16,986
Besides, your rates
are unbeatable.

1186
01:14:19,022 --> 01:14:22,391
Rates?
I don't have any rates.

1187
01:14:22,526 --> 01:14:23,627
Exactly.

1188
01:14:26,663 --> 01:14:30,834
It became just too much
of a temptation for him.

1189
01:14:30,967 --> 01:14:34,103
Barry wanted to kind
of do the Catch Me If You Can.

1190
01:14:34,237 --> 01:14:37,641
It was impressive. I
mean, he really knew his stuff.

1191
01:14:37,774 --> 01:14:39,543
And there you have
the six red flags for fraud.

1192
01:14:39,676 --> 01:14:42,178
Should you choose to
commit those to memory,

1193
01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:43,713
you will be able to stop
the next Barry Minkow

1194
01:14:43,847 --> 01:14:45,749
before he is the next
Barry Minkow.

1195
01:14:45,882 --> 01:14:47,717
That's all I have today.
Thanks for joining me.

1196
01:14:49,853 --> 01:14:54,390
I think Barry viewed himself
as a hero in a sort of twisted way.

1197
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,995
Well, well, well.

1198
01:14:59,128 --> 01:15:00,697
If it ain't the preacher man.

1199
01:15:00,830 --> 01:15:03,366
Good to see you, Smooth. I see
the streets have treated you well.

1200
01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:04,534
You look good, my friend.

1201
01:15:04,668 --> 01:15:06,269
Yeah, right.

1202
01:15:06,402 --> 01:15:09,038
You get a chance to look at the
copy of the prospectus I sent you?

1203
01:15:09,172 --> 01:15:12,275
Does your PO officer know that
you're associating with an ex

1204
01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:14,010
'Cause I will tell him.

1205
01:15:14,143 --> 01:15:17,180
I'm just trying to figure out
how this Lewis guy has managed to

1206
01:15:17,313 --> 01:15:20,784
run a Ponzi scheme for 20
years without it imploding.

1207
01:15:20,917 --> 01:15:24,621
Either I'm missing something,
or he's a financial genius.

1208
01:15:24,754 --> 01:15:26,355
Little of both.

1209
01:15:27,557 --> 01:15:31,260
Can I get a beer
and a whiskey, please?

1210
01:15:35,999 --> 01:15:38,868
Look, I need your expertise.

1211
01:15:39,002 --> 01:15:41,137
You're the best there is.

1212
01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:49,278
You already got
what you're looking for.

1213
01:15:53,817 --> 01:15:55,685
In the prospectus.

1214
01:15:55,819 --> 01:16:00,056
They practically advertise for people
to invest their retirement money.

1215
01:16:00,189 --> 01:16:02,125
Yeah, so?

1216
01:16:02,258 --> 01:16:05,995
When people take their IRA money and
put it into a fund like this one here,

1217
01:16:06,129 --> 01:16:09,933
there are heavy penalties if you
pull out before you're 57 and a half.

1218
01:16:10,066 --> 01:16:14,470
They can invest the money all they
want, they just can't pull it out.

1219
01:16:14,604 --> 01:16:18,608
The perfect ingredient for
the successful Ponzi scheme.

1220
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:24,848
Barry becoming a fraud
buster didn't surprise me.

1221
01:16:24,981 --> 01:16:29,052
You know, I always wondered if going
undercover was an opportunity for him

1222
01:16:29,185 --> 01:16:33,690
to reenact his favorite '80s
detective shows, and he had many,

1223
01:16:33,823 --> 01:16:38,394
or was it part of a larger plan
to actually do good this time?

1224
01:16:43,967 --> 01:16:47,236
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.

1225
01:16:47,370 --> 01:16:50,674
Let me explain this to you.
There's just a slight difference

1226
01:16:50,807 --> 01:16:53,209
between lecturing these guys
and dodging bullets for them.

1227
01:16:53,342 --> 01:16:56,512
And it's not like you've been
trained exactly. Not to a fine edge.

1228
01:16:56,646 --> 01:17:00,249
Look, the guy has been around for
over 20 years and he's a ghost.

1229
01:17:00,383 --> 01:17:01,718
No license
to sell securities,

1230
01:17:01,851 --> 01:17:03,386
no assets held
in the fund's name, nothing.

1231
01:17:03,519 --> 01:17:05,088
Who the hell is this guy?

1232
01:17:05,221 --> 01:17:07,123
It's the only way.

1233
01:17:07,256 --> 01:17:10,626
I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll
send Matt down to the Bahamas,

1234
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,528
and he'll record
the meeting.

1235
01:17:12,662 --> 01:17:15,665
If there's any misreps,
we'll move forward from there.

1236
01:17:15,799 --> 01:17:17,000
How's that?

1237
01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:19,402
Uh, just one last thing is,

1238
01:17:19,535 --> 01:17:22,471
I need Quantico to create me
a bogus bank statement

1239
01:17:22,605 --> 01:17:26,242
showing the church has $5
million parked in a money market.

1240
01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:29,645
Wait a minute, how do you know this
guy's gonna show up in the first place?

1241
01:17:29,779 --> 01:17:33,182
Any Ponzi scheme operator
desperate for new cash

1242
01:17:33,316 --> 01:17:37,053
would do whatever it took to get
their hands on new cash. He'll show.

1243
01:17:37,186 --> 01:17:37,854
Uh-huh.

1244
01:17:39,355 --> 01:17:42,692
So, you're asking me to give
the carpet guy

1245
01:17:42,826 --> 01:17:47,731
this bank statement
for $5 million.

1246
01:17:47,864 --> 01:17:48,965
What, am I crazy?

1247
01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:52,335
Ernest Hemingway said,
"The only way you can learn

1248
01:17:52,468 --> 01:17:55,571
"to trust someone,
is to trust 'em."

1249
01:17:55,705 --> 01:17:57,373
Ernest Hemingway said that?

1250
01:17:57,506 --> 01:18:01,544
I think so. Could have
been Churchill. Or him.

1251
01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:03,279
"Barry,
you don't understand.

1252
01:18:03,412 --> 01:18:05,248
"You're going undercover,
you're not a cop.

1253
01:18:05,381 --> 01:18:06,983
"You're a pastor."

1254
01:18:07,116 --> 01:18:09,218
He said, "Listen,
I'm uncovering fraud.

1255
01:18:09,352 --> 01:18:14,657
"I'm helping people that are getting
scammed and victimized by others."

1256
01:18:14,791 --> 01:18:17,560
I said, "Barry, working so
closely with the government,

1257
01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:20,797
"if you're wrong one time,
you're in trouble."

1258
01:18:20,930 --> 01:18:23,199
You say Don Scott's
a friend of yours?

1259
01:18:23,332 --> 01:18:25,268
Yeah, he's a member
of our church,

1260
01:18:25,401 --> 01:18:27,837
and the church has been
growing so much lately

1261
01:18:27,971 --> 01:18:30,106
that we've established
a building fund,

1262
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:33,142
to purchase some land
to accommodate the growth.

1263
01:18:33,276 --> 01:18:36,312
We wanted to invest that money, have
it working for us until we build.

1264
01:18:36,445 --> 01:18:39,883
Well, it would grow here, I assure
you. How much do you have to invest?

1265
01:18:40,016 --> 01:18:42,451
A little over $5 million.

1266
01:18:42,585 --> 01:18:46,455
Those returns that you've been
generating, can they be corroborated?

1267
01:18:46,589 --> 01:18:50,693
Yes. We earn 18% to 40%
annual. A 20-year track record.

1268
01:18:50,827 --> 01:18:53,396
And 800 million? Eight
hundred million. Yes, correct.

1269
01:18:53,529 --> 01:18:55,631
$800 million fund.

1270
01:18:55,765 --> 01:18:58,401
You just gotta forgive me. Numbers
like that get me a little bit nervous.

1271
01:18:58,534 --> 01:19:01,938
You are aware of my past, I was
convicted of securities fraud?

1272
01:19:02,071 --> 01:19:03,739
I read about you, yes.

1273
01:19:03,873 --> 01:19:07,143
I like how you disclose it up-front
on your church's website, too.

1274
01:19:07,276 --> 01:19:10,780
I'll be happy to work with
you. We all make mistakes.

1275
01:19:10,914 --> 01:19:13,182
You were just a kid.
You got greedy.

1276
01:19:13,316 --> 01:19:17,420
I have the money market
account, bank statement

1277
01:19:17,553 --> 01:19:20,790
to prove that the money is waiting
there, you can call the bank.

1278
01:19:20,924 --> 01:19:22,792
It's clear funds,
waiting to wire.

1279
01:19:22,926 --> 01:19:25,895
Well, thank you for coming, Pastor.
I look forward to working with you.

1280
01:19:26,029 --> 01:19:27,663
Well, I do appreciate
you seeing me,

1281
01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:31,901
and just as soon as you
send Don Scott his $250,000,

1282
01:19:32,035 --> 01:19:34,570
we'll wire these funds
right to your bank account.

1283
01:19:36,973 --> 01:19:41,444
It's just that, Mr. Scott had
requested a $250,000 withdrawal,

1284
01:19:41,577 --> 01:19:43,279
and apparently in your move
to the Bahamas...

1285
01:19:43,412 --> 01:19:46,415
You tell Mr. Scott, he'll
have his money in 24 hours.

1286
01:19:46,549 --> 01:19:48,684
Thank you for coming.
Terrific. Mr. Lewis,

1287
01:19:48,818 --> 01:19:50,954
thank you so much
for your time.

1288
01:19:53,589 --> 01:19:55,291
Well, hey, Don,
good to see you.

1289
01:19:55,424 --> 01:19:59,963
Hey, Barry. Well, Lewis wired
me half my money this morning.

1290
01:20:00,096 --> 01:20:02,098
Half?
Yeah.

1291
01:20:02,231 --> 01:20:06,970
He said that the custodian of American
Investment didn't put in my paperwork,

1292
01:20:07,103 --> 01:20:09,138
so he sent it
out of his own pocket,

1293
01:20:09,272 --> 01:20:13,376
and he said he'd wire me
the other half very soon.

1294
01:20:13,509 --> 01:20:16,212
You know, Don, I may
have underestimated just how

1295
01:20:16,345 --> 01:20:18,581
strapped for cash
Mr. Lewis is.

1296
01:20:20,583 --> 01:20:24,687
Why would he risk
five million new fresh dollars

1297
01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:27,456
by sending only half of what
he promised just days ago?

1298
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:28,858
There's only
one answer to that.

1299
01:20:28,992 --> 01:20:30,693
And that is, he doesn't
have the full amount,

1300
01:20:30,826 --> 01:20:34,397
and he is much more cash-strapped
than I first anticipated.

1301
01:20:34,530 --> 01:20:36,365
You're beginning
to worry me, Barry.

1302
01:20:36,499 --> 01:20:40,603
Look, Don, I don't want you to worry
about a thing. I got this under control.

1303
01:20:40,736 --> 01:20:43,706
Okay? Trust me on this.
It'll be okay.

1304
01:20:43,839 --> 01:20:45,674
I'll take care of it.

1305
01:20:51,314 --> 01:20:52,315
Hello?

1306
01:20:52,448 --> 01:20:54,918
Pastor Minkow, Derek Lewis.

1307
01:20:55,051 --> 01:20:57,520
My understanding was you were
going to deposit your church money

1308
01:20:57,653 --> 01:21:00,289
two days after Mr. Scott
got his withdrawal fund.

1309
01:21:00,423 --> 01:21:04,894
It's my understanding that Mr. Scott
only received half of his funds.

1310
01:21:05,028 --> 01:21:06,495
Well, there was a problem
with the paperwork.

1311
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:08,597
He'll get the balance
tomorrow or the next day.

1312
01:21:08,731 --> 01:21:13,436
Terrific. And once he does, the church
will wire the funds as I had promised.

1313
01:21:13,569 --> 01:21:16,005
Hey, that's my money. I
control who gets paid and when.

1314
01:21:16,139 --> 01:21:18,307
No ex-con's gonna
run a number on me.

1315
01:21:18,441 --> 01:21:21,477
You know something, Mr. Lewis, you're
not as smart as you think you are.

1316
01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:23,112
I know exactly
what you're doing.

1317
01:21:23,246 --> 01:21:26,182
You have no idea what
you're talking about.

1318
01:21:26,315 --> 01:21:29,352
The beauty of grace is that
good people don't go to heaven,

1319
01:21:29,485 --> 01:21:30,753
forgiven people
go to heaven.

1320
01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:32,655
That's the...
Barry, what is going on?

1321
01:21:32,788 --> 01:21:36,025
Excuse me a second. Just
relax for a minute. Excuse me.

1322
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:38,827
Just relax for a minute,
would you, Mike

1323
01:21:38,962 --> 01:21:40,629
I'm gonna punch you
in the face

1324
01:21:40,763 --> 01:21:42,565
the next time you tell
me to relax, all right?

1325
01:21:42,698 --> 01:21:45,935
Derek Lewis is suing my
uncle for $10 million,

1326
01:21:46,069 --> 01:21:48,537
for fraud
and misrepresentation.

1327
01:21:48,671 --> 01:21:50,739
Yeah, I know. He's doing the
same thing to me and the church.

1328
01:21:50,873 --> 01:21:53,242
The cost for the suit
is gonna wipe them out!

1329
01:21:53,376 --> 01:21:56,712
Okay, I need you to stop doing
what you are doing. Okay?

1330
01:21:56,845 --> 01:21:59,382
They've got half their money back.
That's as good as they're gonna get.

1331
01:21:59,515 --> 01:22:00,349
Just walk away.

1332
01:22:00,483 --> 01:22:02,085
I can't, Mike.

1333
01:22:02,218 --> 01:22:04,887
There's a lot more at stake
than what you're thinking.

1334
01:22:05,021 --> 01:22:07,323
It's gonna be okay.
Just trust me.

1335
01:22:07,456 --> 01:22:09,692
Trust you. Where have
I heard that before?

1336
01:22:09,825 --> 01:22:12,728
Trusting you
ruined my life, Barry.

1337
01:22:12,861 --> 01:22:16,565
Barry's intentions were
always good, at least according to him.

1338
01:22:16,699 --> 01:22:18,734
But he had a lack
of regard for the law

1339
01:22:18,867 --> 01:22:20,869
and eventually,
that became an issue.

1340
01:22:21,004 --> 01:22:23,539
But Barry was
very hard to say no to.

1341
01:22:25,308 --> 01:22:28,177
You don't have to convince me
your intentions are good, Barry.

1342
01:22:28,311 --> 01:22:32,148
I know you've been making
restitution, even from prison.

1343
01:22:32,281 --> 01:22:34,950
I owe this community a lot more than
just money, Michael, you know that.

1344
01:22:35,084 --> 01:22:38,721
Yes, but what you're
asking me to do, I cannot do.

1345
01:22:38,854 --> 01:22:40,589
I might lose my job.

1346
01:22:40,723 --> 01:22:46,195
Look, Michael, I got Mr. Lewis
on tape saying he has $800 million

1347
01:22:46,329 --> 01:22:49,465
in his accounts at this bank
and if he does, that's wonderful.

1348
01:22:49,598 --> 01:22:52,068
But if he doesn't, he's in
the process of destroying

1349
01:22:52,201 --> 01:22:55,071
the lives of thousands of
people in this community.

1350
01:22:55,204 --> 01:22:57,506
I need your help.
I can't just...

1351
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,642
We can't just
let that happen.

1352
01:22:59,775 --> 01:23:02,911
All I want you to do is
check the balances.

1353
01:23:03,046 --> 01:23:05,214
If they're nowhere
near $800 million,

1354
01:23:05,348 --> 01:23:08,551
then just get out of that
chair, walk over to that window,

1355
01:23:08,684 --> 01:23:11,454
look outside
and then I'll know for sure.

1356
01:23:11,587 --> 01:23:16,125
All I need are those balances.
Please, Michael, I'll leave either way.

1357
01:23:16,259 --> 01:23:20,329
All the investment company's accounts
are tied to this tax ID number.

1358
01:23:24,167 --> 01:23:28,003
You have to help me here.
You have to believe in me.

1359
01:23:28,137 --> 01:23:29,338
Please.

1360
01:23:56,665 --> 01:23:58,801
Man, looks like
it's going to rain.

1361
01:24:04,340 --> 01:24:07,176
Gamble had me do some digging the
past few days on my lunch break.

1362
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:09,078
What's this?

1363
01:24:09,212 --> 01:24:12,315
Articles of incorporation from
a Tijuana company called Olacane.

1364
01:24:12,448 --> 01:24:13,749
It's Dowry's cash cow.

1365
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:16,752
They get all their factoring
contracts from there.

1366
01:24:16,885 --> 01:24:18,621
It's run by some guy
named Oliveros.

1367
01:24:18,754 --> 01:24:20,289
They operate out of
300 square feet

1368
01:24:20,423 --> 01:24:23,058
and share a secretary
with three other businesses.

1369
01:24:23,192 --> 01:24:25,394
The restoration equivalent
of my Ponzi scheme.

1370
01:24:25,528 --> 01:24:30,299
No way that a 300 square-foot
office in Mexico can substantiate

1371
01:24:30,433 --> 01:24:33,068
hundreds of millions
in factoring business.

1372
01:24:33,202 --> 01:24:35,003
Gamble says,
"Merry Christmas."

1373
01:24:37,606 --> 01:24:38,707
Hello?

1374
01:24:38,841 --> 01:24:40,809
Mr. Lewis,
this is Barry Minkow calling.

1375
01:24:40,943 --> 01:24:42,044
How'd you get this number?

1376
01:24:42,178 --> 01:24:43,646
You have your spies.
I have mine.

1377
01:24:43,779 --> 01:24:45,214
What do you want?

1378
01:24:45,348 --> 01:24:46,849
I'd like to meet you in
Los Angeles tomorrow

1379
01:24:46,982 --> 01:24:49,185
and I'd like you to bring
the rest of Don Scott's money.

1380
01:24:49,318 --> 01:24:50,219
You gotta be joking.

1381
01:24:50,353 --> 01:24:52,121
5:00 p. m., LA Resort Hotel.

1382
01:24:52,255 --> 01:24:54,757
Unless of course you'd like me to
take the information I've obtained

1383
01:24:54,890 --> 01:24:56,659
and turn it over to the FBI
or the Journal.

1384
01:24:56,792 --> 01:24:58,361
And what do you have
on me, Mr. Minkow?

1385
01:24:58,494 --> 01:25:01,330
There's only $387,000
in your bank accounts

1386
01:25:01,464 --> 01:25:03,399
instead of the $800 million
that you purport to have.

1387
01:25:03,532 --> 01:25:04,833
You just wait a minute.

1388
01:25:04,967 --> 01:25:06,935
You, Mr. Lewis,
are running a Ponzi scheme.

1389
01:25:07,069 --> 01:25:09,472
No, you're the ex-con.
You're running the scam.

1390
01:25:09,605 --> 01:25:10,806
I'm doing the work of God.

1391
01:25:10,939 --> 01:25:11,907
Hey, I said wait a minute.

1392
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,442
Protecting the weak.

1393
01:25:13,576 --> 01:25:17,280
I'll see you tomorrow,
LA Resort Hotel, 5:00 p. m.

1394
01:25:17,413 --> 01:25:19,047
Good night, Mr. Lewis.

1395
01:25:28,924 --> 01:25:31,227
Lisa, I wanted
to tell you something,

1396
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,363
but I wanted to make sure
that it came out right.

1397
01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:35,798
So I wanted to be careful.

1398
01:25:35,931 --> 01:25:41,204
Barry, for once in your life,
don't speak, okay?

1399
01:25:43,806 --> 01:25:45,974
Look, I just
want to say that

1400
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:51,347
I see the people who always
second-guess your motives.

1401
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:55,518
I see them. I see the people
who always raise an eyebrow.

1402
01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:57,986
And I know that
you struggle, okay?

1403
01:25:59,955 --> 01:26:01,457
I know that you
struggle knowing that

1404
01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:05,127
most people deep down will
never trust a word that you say.

1405
01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:10,065
I mean, 'cause
let's be real, Barry,

1406
01:26:10,199 --> 01:26:13,202
most people will walk away, most people
are going to just shake their heads

1407
01:26:13,336 --> 01:26:16,205
and steer clear of you and
think that you're a con forever.

1408
01:26:19,875 --> 01:26:22,478
But that's not me.

1409
01:26:22,611 --> 01:26:26,382
I appreciate that
more then you'll ever know.

1410
01:26:26,515 --> 01:26:31,920
I got nothing to offer you but
a $26 million restitution order

1411
01:26:32,054 --> 01:26:34,790
and suspicious glares
and grins every time

1412
01:26:34,923 --> 01:26:38,561
I walk by with you
in some public arena.

1413
01:26:38,694 --> 01:26:40,296
But I will tell you this,

1414
01:26:42,298 --> 01:26:47,536
if I had to serve eight
Super Bowls in prison again,

1415
01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:50,539
and knew that you'd be
waiting for me when I got out,

1416
01:26:52,841 --> 01:26:54,910
I would go
right back to prison.

1417
01:27:07,656 --> 01:27:09,258
Look, uh...

1418
01:27:10,626 --> 01:27:12,127
I can do this, right?

1419
01:27:12,261 --> 01:27:15,564
Yeah. I know
you can do this.

1420
01:27:15,698 --> 01:27:16,865
Go get 'em.

1421
01:27:32,748 --> 01:27:34,383
I don't trust you, Minkow.

1422
01:27:34,517 --> 01:27:38,053
Hey, I'm here to work with
you. I'm not a bad guy.

1423
01:27:38,186 --> 01:27:39,755
I'm a liar and a sinner
saved by grace.

1424
01:27:39,888 --> 01:27:41,189
Stop it.

1425
01:27:41,324 --> 01:27:43,392
There's a lot of people
involved with this fund.

1426
01:27:43,526 --> 01:27:45,728
Heavy hitters.
It's not just me.

1427
01:27:45,861 --> 01:27:48,263
Listen, if you hurt me,

1428
01:27:48,397 --> 01:27:51,400
this goes to the FBI
and the Journal.

1429
01:27:51,534 --> 01:27:54,437
I don't want to hurt you.
I just need you to back off.

1430
01:28:05,213 --> 01:28:10,553
Well, I guess this won't be
going to the FBI or the Journal.

1431
01:28:12,721 --> 01:28:16,825
But tell me, getting this much
cash at this stage of your deal,

1432
01:28:16,959 --> 01:28:18,527
it was a bitch, wasn't it?

1433
01:28:18,661 --> 01:28:21,997
When you're giving 18% to 40%
a year, the interest kills you.

1434
01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:23,399
Do the math.

1435
01:28:23,532 --> 01:28:26,301
Every day keeps you
a little deeper in the hole.

1436
01:28:26,435 --> 01:28:30,439
I did the math and then I did
eight Super Bowls in prison.

1437
01:28:30,573 --> 01:28:32,274
I'm not a criminal.

1438
01:28:32,408 --> 01:28:35,110
My investors double their
money every three years.

1439
01:28:35,243 --> 01:28:38,113
But I had to make
some risky investments

1440
01:28:38,246 --> 01:28:39,848
just to raise some money
for the investors

1441
01:28:39,982 --> 01:28:41,584
that didn't use
the trust fund.

1442
01:28:42,885 --> 01:28:44,987
Tough game we're in.

1443
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,823
These hedge funds,
totally unregulated.

1444
01:28:47,956 --> 01:28:49,057
I'll stay afloat.

1445
01:28:49,191 --> 01:28:50,626
I'll get it all back.

1446
01:28:50,759 --> 01:28:54,530
I just need to survive until
one of my deals pay off big.

1447
01:28:54,663 --> 01:28:56,064
And then I'm home free.

1448
01:28:56,198 --> 01:28:58,834
All I need you to do
is be quiet.

1449
01:28:58,967 --> 01:29:02,771
So, no money
left in the fund?

1450
01:29:02,905 --> 01:29:04,373
More or less.

1451
01:29:08,977 --> 01:29:11,814
Olacane just
a front company?

1452
01:29:11,947 --> 01:29:16,051
Olacane? Why are you asking
about Olacane?

1453
01:29:16,184 --> 01:29:18,521
Just
interested in how...

1454
01:29:18,654 --> 01:29:22,925
Uh, just, you know, interested
in how other people do

1455
01:29:23,058 --> 01:29:25,928
things like I used to do.

1456
01:29:26,061 --> 01:29:27,530
Look, I've gotta go.

1457
01:29:27,663 --> 01:29:30,466
I hope you fellas enjoy the
rest of your stay here in LA.

1458
01:29:30,599 --> 01:29:32,668
Catch a Clipper game
or something.

1459
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:38,774
What the...

1460
01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:41,410
Boss...
Check him.

1461
01:29:41,544 --> 01:29:43,879
Shit, cover's blown,
cover's blown. Move in.

1462
01:29:44,012 --> 01:29:45,481
What's this?

1463
01:29:46,615 --> 01:29:47,683
It's a wire.

1464
01:29:48,884 --> 01:29:50,285
You know something?
Screw this job.

1465
01:29:56,992 --> 01:29:58,293
Don's money.

1466
01:30:03,932 --> 01:30:05,133
Come on. Come on.

1467
01:30:06,802 --> 01:30:08,236
Come on.

1468
01:30:17,813 --> 01:30:19,047
Freeze! FBI!

1469
01:30:19,181 --> 01:30:21,450
Drop the case!
Down on the floor.

1470
01:30:23,385 --> 01:30:25,253
Stay right where you are.

1471
01:30:25,387 --> 01:30:27,122
Let's go.
Down to base camp.

1472
01:30:34,362 --> 01:30:37,633
When I heard Barry was
chasing after bad guys in his movie,

1473
01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:40,769
I said, "Come on, Barry.
I mean, let's get real.

1474
01:30:40,903 --> 01:30:42,370
"There's no way you did this.

1475
01:30:42,505 --> 01:30:44,573
"You're not an action hero."

1476
01:30:50,345 --> 01:30:54,950
The FBI did credit Barry for
his multiple efforts to uncover fraud.

1477
01:30:55,083 --> 01:30:57,319
But there was more
to the story.

1478
01:30:57,452 --> 01:30:59,221
Hey, genius, come here.
Yeah.

1479
01:30:59,354 --> 01:31:01,456
Let me ask you something.

1480
01:31:01,590 --> 01:31:03,526
What would you have done
if you caught those guys?

1481
01:31:03,659 --> 01:31:05,193
They are kind of big,
aren't they?

1482
01:31:06,361 --> 01:31:08,697
I learned in prison,
in a shower of all places,

1483
01:31:08,831 --> 01:31:13,135
that when you do the right thing,
God takes care of the details.

1484
01:31:16,872 --> 01:31:19,474
Good job, by the way.

1485
01:31:19,608 --> 01:31:20,843
Merry Christmas.

1486
01:31:23,912 --> 01:31:26,048
What's ironic
here is that

1487
01:31:26,181 --> 01:31:31,253
while Barry was bragging about the
$1.6 billion in fraud he'd uncovered,

1488
01:31:31,386 --> 01:31:33,956
he was hammering companies
whose stock he'd shorted

1489
01:31:34,089 --> 01:31:39,194
in a series of attacks often based
on misleading or false charges.

1490
01:31:39,327 --> 01:31:41,163
Causing not the companies

1491
01:31:41,296 --> 01:31:46,569
but thousands of innocent shareholders
to lose well over $3 billion.

1492
01:31:46,702 --> 01:31:49,337
I always wondered why no
one ever really talks about

1493
01:31:49,471 --> 01:31:52,741
how much he had cost
all of those people.

1494
01:31:52,875 --> 01:31:57,646
Way more than any amount of fraud
that he ever uncovered or prevented.

1495
01:31:57,780 --> 01:32:00,649
He was really on the right road,
he had everything going for him

1496
01:32:00,783 --> 01:32:02,551
and to go this crazy,

1497
01:32:02,685 --> 01:32:05,487
to do the things that he did,
even I was surprised.

1498
01:32:05,621 --> 01:32:07,856
And, look, not too much
surprises me.

1499
01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:10,893
I've been on the street a long time
and I've seen just about everything.

1500
01:32:11,026 --> 01:32:14,062
I don't think I've ever seen the
extent of what Barry has done.

1501
01:32:14,196 --> 01:32:17,299
I mean, this was a Madoff type of
thing. It turned out to be his downfall.

1502
01:32:17,432 --> 01:32:23,538
I watched Barry do an impassioned sermon
that to me was unbelievable oratory.

1503
01:32:23,672 --> 01:32:28,877
And he would then follow that up
after motivating his entire parish,

1504
01:32:29,011 --> 01:32:31,880
and go out in the lobby and
accept a check from somebody

1505
01:32:32,014 --> 01:32:36,018
that he knew he was going to
misappropriate and spend improperly.

1506
01:32:36,151 --> 01:32:39,855
I know we're supposed
to forgive. As Christians,

1507
01:32:39,988 --> 01:32:41,857
we're supposed to forgive.

1508
01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:45,327
Maybe I can say I forgive,
but I cannot forget.

1509
01:32:45,460 --> 01:32:48,496
I cannot ever forget
what he has done.

1510
01:32:50,766 --> 01:32:53,235
He stole more than $3 million
from the church personally,

1511
01:32:53,368 --> 01:32:58,974
and multiple millions of dollars from
the people in the church privately.

1512
01:32:59,107 --> 01:33:04,312
And, boy, he took money
in the millions from people,

1513
01:33:04,446 --> 01:33:05,781
but he took my reputation

1514
01:33:05,914 --> 01:33:09,451
at... Which, you could always
get money back.

1515
01:33:09,584 --> 01:33:10,919
The comeback that he made

1516
01:33:11,053 --> 01:33:14,589
and the impact that he was
truly making was worthy.

1517
01:33:14,723 --> 01:33:17,492
But that story didn't end
the way it could have.

1518
01:33:17,626 --> 01:33:21,363
And I think when selfishness and
greed come in there, it sent him back.

1519
01:33:21,496 --> 01:33:23,799
It was a very tragic ending.

1520
01:33:23,932 --> 01:33:28,170
And tragic not just for Barry,
for the people that were hurt.

1521
01:33:28,303 --> 01:33:30,973
His whole life was an act.

1522
01:33:31,106 --> 01:33:34,409
His whole life was an act.

1523
01:33:34,542 --> 01:33:36,544
That's the bottom line.

1524
01:33:36,679 --> 01:33:39,581
Barry was
a master storyteller.

1525
01:33:39,715 --> 01:33:42,384
So even with Peanut,
for all I know

1526
01:33:42,517 --> 01:33:44,753
it was the same as Jimmy
Stewart's Harvey the bunny.

1527
01:33:44,887 --> 01:33:48,123
I don't think the
Peanut story was all true.

1528
01:33:48,256 --> 01:33:49,758
I think there was a Peanut,

1529
01:33:49,892 --> 01:33:53,896
but I don't think it went down
like Barry said it went down.

1530
01:34:38,807 --> 01:34:43,411
This match right here
is me and your life.

1531
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:50,652
All the darkness in the world can't
overcome the power of one light,

1532
01:34:50,786 --> 01:34:52,888
one person
who believes in you.

1533
01:34:54,589 --> 01:34:56,658
Don't ever forget that.

1534
01:34:59,127 --> 01:35:00,562
Ever.