0 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:20,000 1 00:00:01,020 --> 00:00:04,020 ( SKATEBOARD ROLLING ) 2 00:00:41,390 --> 00:00:43,490 ( SPARE PIANO MUSIC ) 3 00:00:43,530 --> 00:00:47,700 I'm Zak Bagans, paranormal investigator. 4 00:00:47,730 --> 00:00:49,230 For the past 13 years, 5 00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:52,170 I've investigated over 1,000 hauntings. 6 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,740 I have a series on TheTravel Channel in the U.S. 7 00:00:55,770 --> 00:00:59,270 ...called "Ghost Adventures." 8 00:00:59,310 --> 00:01:01,280 I'm one of the world's leading researchers... 9 00:01:01,310 --> 00:01:03,780 ...on ghosts and demonology. 10 00:01:03,810 --> 00:01:10,050 And this is the case that really fucked me up. 11 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:11,690 The story was huge. 12 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,120 It was the next Amityville. 13 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,220 And I went all out. 14 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:16,690 I had plenty of resources, 15 00:01:16,730 --> 00:01:18,090 ...equipment, a great crew. 16 00:01:18,130 --> 00:01:21,260 I thought I was gonna crush this story. 17 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:25,070 But in the end, nothing was as it seemed. 18 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:28,340 I fell ill and couldn't leave my room for eight days. 19 00:01:28,370 --> 00:01:30,040 I didn't feel like myself. 20 00:01:30,070 --> 00:01:33,310 Crew members quit on the spot or had to get fired. 21 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:37,480 Witnesses and experts ended up in the hospital. 22 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:42,180 And at the heart of it all was a little screwed-up house. 23 00:01:42,220 --> 00:01:46,220 It took me three years to finish this film. 24 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:48,120 I had everything I needed. 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,630 But the truth is, this film, is cursed. 26 00:01:56,430 --> 00:01:59,400 ( OMINOUS MUSIC ) 27 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:06,670 ♪ ♪ 28 00:02:51,450 --> 00:02:54,690 ( WIND WHISTLING ) 29 00:02:59,660 --> 00:03:01,930 In 2014, I had a nightmare... 30 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,100 ...where I'm a spirit hanging out with other spirits. 31 00:03:05,130 --> 00:03:07,070 And I show them this trick I can do, 32 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:10,140 ...moving an object on a table without touching it, 33 00:03:10,170 --> 00:03:12,240 ...like what I try to get spirits to do... 34 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,940 ...during my investigations. 35 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:17,310 Then, I'm suddenly in front of a door, 36 00:03:17,350 --> 00:03:18,810 ...and I can't control my body. 37 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:20,480 And the door opens, 38 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,950 ...and a 12-foot-tall goat figure is standing there, 39 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:26,750 ...and dark black smoke comes out of its mouth, 40 00:03:26,790 --> 00:03:28,420 ...and I'm forced to inhale it. 41 00:03:28,460 --> 00:03:29,720 ( GROWLING ) 42 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,760 When I woke up, my lungs hurt, 43 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:34,530 ...and I knew this was some serious shit... 44 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,860 ...that meant something. 45 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:39,370 A week later, a story about a demon possession... 46 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,300 ...in Gary, Indiana, makes international news. 47 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:44,146 And a look at one of the most documented cases... 48 00:03:44,170 --> 00:03:47,580 ...of demon possession and exorcism in recent history. 49 00:03:47,610 --> 00:03:48,980 While this news is breaking, 50 00:03:49,010 --> 00:03:50,780 I'm filming a show in California... 51 00:03:50,810 --> 00:03:53,880 ...when I start getting calls about it. 52 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,680 The next day, over the phone, 53 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,150 I buy the house, sight unseen. 54 00:03:59,190 --> 00:04:02,490 Now, "Inside Edition" with Deborah Norville. 55 00:04:02,530 --> 00:04:04,090 That "Portal to Hell" house... 56 00:04:04,130 --> 00:04:06,290 ...that we've been telling you about in Gary, Indiana, 57 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:09,160 ...where so many eerie things are said to have happened, 58 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,700 ...has just been sold. 59 00:04:10,730 --> 00:04:12,630 And wait till you see who's moving in. 60 00:04:12,670 --> 00:04:14,870 The new owner is Zak Bagans. 61 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:17,870 What on Earth were you thinking, buying this house? 62 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,610 A week later, I arrive with a film crew. 63 00:04:23,650 --> 00:04:25,810 A woman named Latoya Ammons, 64 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:28,050 ...along with her young children and her mother, 65 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,250 ...are the family at the center of this haunting. 66 00:04:31,290 --> 00:04:33,220 Unfortunately, they've since moved out, 67 00:04:33,260 --> 00:04:35,960 ...and some squatters have moved in. 68 00:04:35,990 --> 00:04:38,660 It takes some convincing to get them to leave. 69 00:04:38,690 --> 00:04:40,060 Hello? 70 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:42,200 Hey, Charles, it's Zak, did you call? 71 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:48,970 Okay, thanks, Charles. 72 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:53,710 Hey, how you doing, man? 73 00:04:53,740 --> 00:04:55,040 Leon Steadman. 74 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,540 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, how are you? 75 00:04:56,580 --> 00:04:58,950 – How you doing? – I'm all right. I'm all right. 76 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Your friends? 77 00:05:02,350 --> 00:05:03,520 Who's your friends? 78 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:05,790 Oh, man. 79 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:14,460 This is my first steps right now inside the home. 80 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:18,500 And... wow, this is it, huh? 81 00:05:18,530 --> 00:05:23,170 Then, psychic medium Chris Fleming sends me a text. 82 00:05:23,210 --> 00:05:25,470 He's heard I bought the house. 83 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:29,080 He sends me a warning that I'll never forget. 84 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:32,750 He tells me there's a 12-foot-tall demon guardian, 85 00:05:32,780 --> 00:05:34,650 ...just like the one from my dream, 86 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,320 ...at that house. 87 00:05:36,350 --> 00:05:39,050 And I better stay the hell away from it. 88 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,530 I should have taken his advice. 89 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,430 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 90 00:05:49,470 --> 00:05:50,770 But I didn't. 91 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,040 I just got the keys, to the Demon House. 92 00:05:56,510 --> 00:05:58,040 So I have the house, 93 00:05:58,070 --> 00:06:00,940 ...but I don't have Latoya Ammons and her family, 94 00:06:00,980 --> 00:06:04,410 ...who were allegedly possessed in the house. 95 00:06:04,450 --> 00:06:06,750 They've moved away to Indianapolis, 96 00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:08,320 ...so we go searching for them. 97 00:06:08,350 --> 00:06:09,620 This is it. 98 00:06:09,650 --> 00:06:11,250 This is what it all comes down to, 99 00:06:11,290 --> 00:06:16,360 ...after numerous conversations with Latoya and her mother... 100 00:06:16,390 --> 00:06:19,630 ...about them debating on whether or not they want to talk... 101 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:22,160 ...or do an interview with me. 102 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,330 They always said they'd return our phone calls, 103 00:06:24,370 --> 00:06:26,900 ...and they never did. 104 00:06:26,940 --> 00:06:30,600 So, we were able to find their address. 105 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,940 I have to go try and talk to them. 106 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:37,310 We're in Indianapolis. 107 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:40,820 Latoya did a news story, like, a year ago or something. 108 00:06:40,850 --> 00:06:44,390 And we were able to find this news story... 109 00:06:44,420 --> 00:06:47,320 ...that wasn't related to her exorcisms, 110 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,790 ...about a mold problem here in these apartments. 111 00:06:49,830 --> 00:06:51,366 And you could see her standing there... 112 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:53,960 ...with the address, on the right-hand side. 113 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,170 And that's how we were able to be led here. 114 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:10,310 This whole story started in 2011, 115 00:07:10,350 --> 00:07:13,050 ...when the Ammons family moved into that old rental house... 116 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,780 ...in Gary, Indiana. 117 00:07:14,820 --> 00:07:16,320 They started hearing footsteps... 118 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:18,250 ...going up and down their basement stairs, 119 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:20,520 ...saw shadowy figures in the living room, 120 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,390 ...and flies swarmed their screened-in porch... 121 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:25,130 ...in the dead of winter. 122 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,190 The local Catholic church told them... 123 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:29,730 ...their house was haunted by spirits, 124 00:07:29,770 --> 00:07:32,430 ...and a couple clairvoyants claimed that the house... 125 00:07:32,470 --> 00:07:35,540 ...was home to 200 demons. 126 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:38,570 Then it started affecting their young children more. 127 00:07:38,610 --> 00:07:41,910 They started having dark conversations about death... 128 00:07:41,940 --> 00:07:44,980 ...with people who weren't there. 129 00:07:45,010 --> 00:07:49,050 A family doctor wrote it off as delusions. 130 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,560 Then, on April 27, 2012, everything blew up. 131 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:57,220 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 132 00:07:57,260 --> 00:08:01,730 Now I'm outside their new home 150 miles away, 133 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,430 ...hoping they'll talk to me. 134 00:08:04,470 --> 00:08:06,500 Someone in there. 135 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:08,400 ( KNOCKING ) 136 00:08:22,850 --> 00:08:25,650 Is Latoya or Rosa here? 137 00:08:25,690 --> 00:08:26,650 How are you? 138 00:08:26,690 --> 00:08:28,090 I'm Matt. 139 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,366 We talked on the phone a couple weeks ago. 140 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:31,260 – This is Zak. – What's up, man? 141 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:34,800 How you doing? 142 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:36,030 Good. 143 00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:38,530 I wanted to see if Latoya or Rosa... 144 00:08:38,570 --> 00:08:40,230 ...would want to talk to us. 145 00:08:40,270 --> 00:08:42,470 Okay. 146 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:45,310 Okay, yeah. 147 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:46,770 See what happens. 148 00:08:46,810 --> 00:08:48,940 ( TAPE FAST-FORWARDING ) 149 00:08:48,980 --> 00:08:52,380 – It's bullshit. – I knew it. 150 00:08:58,990 --> 00:09:00,590 Oh, she won't? 151 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:03,220 Okay. 152 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:05,060 Kevin explains they won't speak to me... 153 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:07,460 ...because I've spent time in the house, 154 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:11,870 ...and they fear things have attached themselves to me. 155 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:16,440 Luckily, Kevin is willing to talk. 156 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:18,040 What did you notice first? 157 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:20,610 I was told not to even go in the house. 158 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,810 It was really affecting the kids... 159 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:25,850 ...and my sister the most, you know. 160 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,280 And really the youngest, my nephew. 161 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,150 It was really, really letting him have it. 162 00:09:32,190 --> 00:09:34,490 It was hurting him, you know, things of that nature. 163 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,790 Then, when they came to see me and stay with me... 164 00:09:38,830 --> 00:09:40,090 ...those few days and nights, 165 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:41,660 ...it was attacking them in my home. 166 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:42,700 I heard it. 167 00:09:42,730 --> 00:09:43,700 I was upstairs in my bedroom, 168 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:46,100 ...and I heard, "Whoom!" 169 00:09:46,140 --> 00:09:48,970 ( DISTORTED SHOUTING ) 170 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,140 They were all sitting in my living room, 171 00:09:51,170 --> 00:09:54,940 ...and they started this little, weird, evil little chant... 172 00:09:54,980 --> 00:09:55,940 ...out of nowhere. 173 00:09:55,980 --> 00:09:57,210 And it started with... 174 00:09:57,250 --> 00:09:58,426 ...my youngest nephew started. 175 00:09:58,450 --> 00:09:59,410 ( VIDEO GAME MUSIC ) 176 00:09:59,450 --> 00:10:00,380 He stopped. 177 00:10:00,420 --> 00:10:01,950 My oldest nephew picked it up. 178 00:10:01,980 --> 00:10:02,980 He stopped. 179 00:10:03,020 --> 00:10:03,980 My niece picks it up. 180 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:05,420 Are you okay? 181 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:08,260 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 182 00:10:08,290 --> 00:10:11,530 ( WHEEZING GUTTURALLY ) 183 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:19,830 ( DISTORTED GROANING ) 184 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:23,170 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 185 00:10:23,210 --> 00:10:26,510 ( DISTORTED ROARING ) 186 00:10:29,110 --> 00:10:31,010 We were taking them to the car, 187 00:10:31,050 --> 00:10:32,450 ...and then all of a sudden, 188 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,180 ...my one nephew started attacking the other one. 189 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:37,950 And then, my niece just starting attacking. 190 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:39,490 They just kept attacking each other. 191 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,650 ( KIDS SHOUTING ) 192 00:10:40,690 --> 00:10:41,790 Stop it. 193 00:10:41,820 --> 00:10:44,090 ( KIDS SCREAMING ) 194 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:47,390 ( DISTORTED SCREAMING ) 195 00:10:47,430 --> 00:10:49,060 And my nephew looks up at my mom, 196 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:51,230 ...said, "Get your hands off me, you old bitch." 197 00:10:51,270 --> 00:10:52,830 I said that's enough. 198 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:55,600 (DEEP VOICE) Get your fucking hands off me, bitch. 199 00:10:59,210 --> 00:11:01,740 (DEEP VOICE) Fuck your old-ass car, bitch. 200 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:05,010 Had they ever talked to your mom like that? 201 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:06,126 No, they would never do that. 202 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:07,280 – Ever? – Ever, ever. 203 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,050 I had my oldest nephew, 204 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,380 ...and she had him. 205 00:11:10,420 --> 00:11:12,390 And he looks at him, he's like, he says, 206 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:14,120 "Are you ready to go, my brother?" 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,460 "Yes, my brother, I'm ready to go." 208 00:11:16,490 --> 00:11:18,490 All of a sudden, it just started grabbing... 209 00:11:18,530 --> 00:11:20,160 ...my oldest nephew, just slamming him, 210 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,900 ...slamming him, slamming him in the back. 211 00:11:21,930 --> 00:11:24,030 Then he just kept throwing him. 212 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,740 I don't know exactly why it chose my family. 213 00:11:31,770 --> 00:11:33,010 I don't know if it was... 214 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,810 Do you think it was in the house? 215 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,240 I'm thinking it's a presence that was in the house... 216 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,950 ...before they moved there. 217 00:11:38,980 --> 00:11:41,180 Do you think it's dangerous for me to be in that house? 218 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:43,080 I wouldn't be there. 219 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,450 No way I would be there. 220 00:11:44,490 --> 00:11:46,790 ( EERIE ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC ) 221 00:11:46,820 --> 00:11:48,590 After meeting with me, 222 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:51,290 ...the Ammons won't let their brother back in their home, 223 00:11:51,330 --> 00:11:53,690 ...because I've been inside the house, 224 00:11:53,730 --> 00:11:57,530 ...and the spirits could have transferred over to him. 225 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,570 Next, I track down Father Michael Maginot, 226 00:12:04,610 --> 00:12:07,310 ...the priest who performed multiple exorcisms... 227 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:08,840 ...on the Ammons family, 228 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,750 ...to fill me in on the next part of the story. 229 00:12:11,780 --> 00:12:12,810 They called 911? 230 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:14,010 They called 911. 231 00:12:14,050 --> 00:12:15,550 Ambulances came. 232 00:12:15,580 --> 00:12:18,720 They took the boys to the emergency room. 233 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:20,650 When they got to the hospital, 234 00:12:20,690 --> 00:12:22,260 ...were there still strange things... 235 00:12:22,290 --> 00:12:25,260 ...being reported by the emergency room staff? 236 00:12:25,290 --> 00:12:29,300 Yeah, there was one boy, was very violent. 237 00:12:29,330 --> 00:12:30,876 Could you mention about the hospital again? 238 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:34,070 Tell Lieutenant Gruszka what happened? 239 00:12:41,010 --> 00:12:42,510 And my granddaughter start, 240 00:12:42,540 --> 00:12:44,680 "I can't take it anymore, Grandma." 241 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:45,980 "Make them stop." 242 00:12:46,010 --> 00:12:47,450 "I can't look in their eyes." 243 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,820 "I can't look in their eyes." 244 00:12:55,020 --> 00:12:57,590 His head is doing this. 245 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,260 "I've been here long enough." 246 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:05,470 "I came to kill." 247 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:07,530 "I'm going to kill now." 248 00:13:07,570 --> 00:13:09,770 This is how he started talking. 249 00:13:09,810 --> 00:13:12,870 What happens next is witnessed by hospital staff... 250 00:13:12,910 --> 00:13:16,210 ...and Child Protective Services case manager... 251 00:13:16,250 --> 00:13:17,780 ...Valerie Washington. 252 00:13:17,810 --> 00:13:20,850 ( WHISPERING, SCREAMING ) 253 00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:27,120 So I have the intake officer's report. 254 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,360 And this is by Valerie Washington, 255 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:32,190 ...the family case manager, 256 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:34,830 ...dated April 23, 2012. 257 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:36,100 Okay. 258 00:13:36,130 --> 00:13:37,560 And this was Valerie Washington... 259 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,100 ...that did say, 260 00:13:39,130 --> 00:13:41,800 "Later that evening, he began to growl." 261 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,910 "He charged at the grandmother's stomach..." 262 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:48,110 "...and head butted her several times." 263 00:14:05,330 --> 00:14:06,290 Help him, please! 264 00:14:06,330 --> 00:14:07,830 Jesus, help him! 265 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:10,900 ( INDISTINCT SHOUTING ) 266 00:14:15,870 --> 00:14:18,910 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 267 00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:21,410 ♪ ♪ 268 00:14:23,550 --> 00:14:25,350 He went up the wall real fast. 269 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:27,080 Standing like this, 270 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,750 ...facing the wall this way, 271 00:14:28,780 --> 00:14:29,880 ...and went up the wall, 272 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,160 ...and then came back around... 273 00:14:31,190 --> 00:14:32,466 ...and stood back in front of us. 274 00:14:32,490 --> 00:14:33,920 What did you do when that happened? 275 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,120 I left the room. 276 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,190 She walked out. I saw her. 277 00:14:37,230 --> 00:14:38,260 I ran out the room. 278 00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:39,690 I saw you, girl. 279 00:14:39,730 --> 00:14:42,260 So there's the CPS worker, right there, 280 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,006 ...admitting to the police that's filming this, 281 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:47,940 ...that she did witness this boy walking backwards up the wall. 282 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:49,686 Who else was in the room when that happened? 283 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:50,870 The psychologist. 284 00:14:50,910 --> 00:14:52,116 The psychologist was there too? 285 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:53,140 He was there. 286 00:14:53,180 --> 00:14:54,540 He had just examined. 287 00:14:54,580 --> 00:14:55,980 What did the psychologist say? 288 00:14:56,010 --> 00:14:57,580 He left the room too. 289 00:15:03,650 --> 00:15:05,490 You haven't been here since the last time? 290 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,420 I haven't been here... 291 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:08,960 ...since the day after he came here. 292 00:15:08,990 --> 00:15:11,390 This home video was shot by police... 293 00:15:11,430 --> 00:15:13,660 ...doing a wellness check on the Ammonses... 294 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:16,900 ...one week after the incident at the hospital. 295 00:15:16,930 --> 00:15:18,830 This is the first time the Ammonses... 296 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:20,700 ...have been back to their home since then. 297 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:22,500 Is everything pretty much intact, 298 00:15:22,540 --> 00:15:24,840 ...the way you guys left it? 299 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:27,870 Yes, yes. 300 00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:29,810 Okay, so this is... 301 00:15:29,850 --> 00:15:31,080 Who's room is this? 302 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:32,380 My room. 303 00:15:32,410 --> 00:15:34,210 Oh, so you had the front room... nice. 304 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:36,280 I had to stay in there. 305 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,250 One of the officers that was there that day... 306 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:43,620 ...was Captain Charles Austin, 307 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:45,460 ...who had been there a month earlier... 308 00:15:45,490 --> 00:15:49,760 ...on a Child Protective Services call. 309 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,230 Why did you come here March 2012? 310 00:15:52,270 --> 00:15:55,300 I'm the watch commander for the police department. 311 00:15:55,340 --> 00:15:56,740 One of the sergeants stated... 312 00:15:56,770 --> 00:15:58,810 ...that he was dispatched to this location... 313 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,310 ...to assist Child Protective Service... 314 00:16:01,340 --> 00:16:03,410 ...and remove two or three children... 315 00:16:03,450 --> 00:16:05,880 ...who had not been attending school. 316 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:09,020 Upon walking in, he saw several crucifixes, 317 00:16:09,050 --> 00:16:12,390 ...candles which had been burnt, and Bibles. 318 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:14,450 And he stated that he had an eerie feeling... 319 00:16:14,490 --> 00:16:16,490 ...within inside the residence. 320 00:16:16,530 --> 00:16:18,890 In my 37 years of police investigation, 321 00:16:18,930 --> 00:16:21,660 I've never run into anything like that before. 322 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:24,900 ( ZAPPING SOUND EFFECTS ) 323 00:16:26,330 --> 00:16:29,170 So we stayed up here for approximately 45 minutes, 324 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,770 ...and I was in disbelief. 325 00:16:31,810 --> 00:16:34,910 What time do the things in this usually start? 326 00:16:34,940 --> 00:16:36,210 You said in the evening? 327 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,640 They don't have a special time. 328 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,250 So I'm saying, yeah, okay, right. 329 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,750 This is really occurring. 330 00:16:41,780 --> 00:16:44,950 The officers then went down into the basement. 331 00:16:49,420 --> 00:16:51,260 And it was a table... 332 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:53,590 ...with a crucifix, a Bible, 333 00:16:53,630 --> 00:16:55,830 ...and a candle which had been lit. 334 00:16:55,860 --> 00:16:58,100 We stayed down here for about 15 minutes. 335 00:16:58,130 --> 00:16:59,270 And he was videotaping. 336 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:00,800 I was taking my iPhone... 337 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,600 ...and I was taking pictures and whatever. 338 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,040 And I said, "It's time for me to leave." 339 00:17:05,070 --> 00:17:08,310 "I've had enough." 340 00:17:08,340 --> 00:17:10,240 I immediately started walking. 341 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,880 And as I walked, I say... 342 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,650 "That's weird." 343 00:17:16,690 --> 00:17:18,420 I don't know that much about construction. 344 00:17:18,450 --> 00:17:21,690 But why would somebody concrete a whole basement... 345 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,160 ...and leave dirt under the stairs? 346 00:17:24,190 --> 00:17:26,130 I said, "That don't make sense." 347 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,630 And as I look closer, 348 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:31,530 I saw floor pan with a candle on it. 349 00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:33,670 Don't make sense. 350 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:36,000 Don't make common sense. 351 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,440 At this stage of the police investigation, 352 00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:41,140 ...what Captain Austin perceives as odd... 353 00:17:41,180 --> 00:17:44,410 ...may be something much graver. 354 00:17:44,450 --> 00:17:49,220 Is it possible this discovery is the remnants of a ritual, 355 00:17:49,250 --> 00:17:53,450 ...one capable of conjuring something terrifying? 356 00:17:58,790 --> 00:18:02,530 Then, in fact, things start occurring. 357 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,200 What do you mean things? 358 00:18:04,230 --> 00:18:05,400 What kind of things? 359 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:08,800 ( EERIE CREAKING ) 360 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,600 We noticed when we went in the basement, 361 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,240 ...there's actually two doors. 362 00:18:12,270 --> 00:18:14,910 The one on the left that actually goes to the room, 363 00:18:14,940 --> 00:18:16,680 ...at various times we were in the basement, 364 00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:18,180 ...it was in a different position, 365 00:18:18,210 --> 00:18:20,950 ...and neither one of us had went into the room. 366 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:24,920 I had an audio recording... 367 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:26,790 ...that I was walking around the house, 368 00:18:26,820 --> 00:18:30,920 ...just making notes or commenting on things. 369 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:35,830 There was an unusual, unidentifiable voice... 370 00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:37,760 ...that appeared on that audio. 371 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,570 They're burning stuff all over the place here. 372 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,000 That's where... 373 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,470 ( INDISTINCT BACKGROUND CHATTER ) 374 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,180 I'm surprised the fire department... 375 00:18:49,210 --> 00:18:50,680 ...hasn't been here. 376 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:52,480 It sounds like "heys" to me. 377 00:18:52,510 --> 00:18:53,750 ( INDISTINCT WHOOSHING ) 378 00:18:53,780 --> 00:18:54,780 ( CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ) 379 00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:55,980 I'm surprised the... 380 00:18:56,020 --> 00:18:56,820 ( TAPE REWINDING ) 381 00:18:56,850 --> 00:18:58,350 ( INDISTINCT WHOOSHING ) 382 00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:59,666 Did you hear that with your own ears? 383 00:18:59,690 --> 00:19:00,796 When that happened that day, 384 00:19:00,820 --> 00:19:02,320 ...I did not hear any voice. 385 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,860 I only heard it on the recording. 386 00:19:04,890 --> 00:19:08,200 ( INDISTINCT WHOOSHING ) 387 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:10,000 And I walked out of here... 388 00:19:10,030 --> 00:19:11,830 ...and got in my unit, squad car, 389 00:19:11,870 --> 00:19:15,200 ...and I drove approximately a mile and a half away. 390 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:19,840 You pulled over, no? 391 00:19:19,870 --> 00:19:21,356 Right, I'm in a gas station parking lot. 392 00:19:21,380 --> 00:19:23,140 And all of a sudden, 393 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:29,650 ...the AM/FM radio in my car changed and went to static. 394 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,820 And it said, "Who in there?" 395 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,720 ( CRICKETS CHIRPING ) 396 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,190 The home's previous owner told me... 397 00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:41,660 ...that other police officers... 398 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:43,276 ...had experienced things in the house... 399 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:45,800 ...that had caused them to quit their jobs... 400 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:47,900 ...and move away from the area. 401 00:19:47,940 --> 00:19:50,470 I have come to the conclusion, 402 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:52,510 ...because of everything that had transpired... 403 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:54,340 ...and all the things that I had witnessed... 404 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:55,710 ...and heard about, 405 00:19:55,740 --> 00:20:00,480 ...that it affected women and children physically... 406 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,680 ...and the stronger men electronically. 407 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,950 We set up another meeting to come to this house. 408 00:20:06,990 --> 00:20:07,790 Who did? 409 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:09,590 Myself, the other officers, 410 00:20:09,620 --> 00:20:11,120 ...Child Protective Services. 411 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,390 The same CPS worker from before? 412 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:15,230 No, she wouldn't come back. 413 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:16,300 Why? 414 00:20:16,330 --> 00:20:17,960 She was terrified. 415 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,740 Something was coming from underneath those stairs... 416 00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:27,540 ...that was causing the whole house... 417 00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:30,410 To turn. 418 00:20:30,450 --> 00:20:33,710 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 419 00:20:36,250 --> 00:20:38,590 In light of these developments, 420 00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:40,290 Reverend Maginot gets approval... 421 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,030 ...to perform a minor rite on the mother, Latoya Ammons. 422 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:48,800 You basically want to try to either aggravate the demon... 423 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:50,800 ...or abate it. 424 00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:52,570 But if it's consistent, 425 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,000 ...okay, you're not really affecting the demon, 426 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,070 ...and you may be endangering the person. 427 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:00,670 Behold the cross of the Lord. 428 00:21:00,710 --> 00:21:02,740 Flee bands of enemies. 429 00:21:02,780 --> 00:21:04,180 May you be snatched away... 430 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:06,580 ...and driven from the church of God... 431 00:21:06,610 --> 00:21:08,150 ...and from the souls redeemed... 432 00:21:08,180 --> 00:21:12,250 ...by the precious blood of the Divine Lamb. 433 00:21:12,290 --> 00:21:14,820 I saw she had an aversion to holy objects. 434 00:21:14,860 --> 00:21:17,320 I put the crucifix on her head. 435 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,560 She began convulsing. 436 00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:19,966 I took it off; she stopped convulsing. 437 00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:21,590 And then I did it a second time. 438 00:21:21,630 --> 00:21:23,760 Again, watching, it's consistent. 439 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,270 And did it a third time. 440 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:28,800 Father Maginot sat on the couch with a Bible, 441 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,900 ...some holy water, and some salt. 442 00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:32,470 And he was reading the Bible. 443 00:21:32,510 --> 00:21:33,670 He was just intense. 444 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:35,940 He was really reading. 445 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:38,880 While Reverend Maginot tends to Latoya, 446 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:41,050 ...the three police officers who are present... 447 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:46,820 ...begin digging in the basement, under the stairs. 448 00:21:46,860 --> 00:21:48,420 We were digging, whatever. 449 00:21:48,460 --> 00:21:51,420 He had dug about 4 feet. 450 00:21:51,460 --> 00:21:52,460 The officer? 451 00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:54,230 Right. 452 00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:55,530 And he found a nail, 453 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,100 ...a finger nail, a clip-on nail. 454 00:21:57,130 --> 00:21:59,030 I think it was pink in color. 455 00:21:59,070 --> 00:22:00,200 A nail? 456 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,300 Right, right, a finger nail, a clip-on nail. 457 00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:03,640 And he found some panties. 458 00:22:03,670 --> 00:22:05,240 Panties? 459 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:09,610 Women's panties, women's underwear. 460 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,440 Also dug up that day: 461 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,220 ...a comb, two children's socks, a heavy bar, and a red tin. 462 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:21,050 So who buried these objects under the stairs? 463 00:22:21,090 --> 00:22:22,990 And why? 464 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,230 Do you believe that that house was haunted... 465 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:31,200 ...before Latoya and her family moved in? 466 00:22:31,230 --> 00:22:35,400 If those items were there from that original family, 467 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,740 ...it could be. 468 00:22:36,770 --> 00:22:38,040 Now, I think it would be... 469 00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:39,840 ...what you would call "necromancy," 470 00:22:39,870 --> 00:22:44,180 ...which is trying to communicate with the dead. 471 00:22:44,210 --> 00:22:46,780 We only assumed, because we had no expertise, 472 00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:50,950 ...that this was a portal to Hell. 473 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:53,950 Upstairs, something begins to happen... 474 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:55,590 ...in the center bedroom. 475 00:22:55,620 --> 00:22:58,790 We went in the center bedroom on the first floor, 476 00:22:58,830 --> 00:23:01,490 ...and the blinds were dripping oil. 477 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:03,236 In fact, they weren't dripping from the top, 478 00:23:03,260 --> 00:23:04,560 ...as you would expect. 479 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,300 They were dripping from the middle of the blinds. 480 00:23:08,340 --> 00:23:10,340 There was some liquid material... 481 00:23:10,370 --> 00:23:13,340 ...that had appeared on some blinds in there, 482 00:23:13,370 --> 00:23:15,840 ...and we had no source for that material. 483 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,540 We left the room. 484 00:23:17,580 --> 00:23:20,380 First, we photographed it and documented it. 485 00:23:20,420 --> 00:23:22,580 And then I wiped down the blinds. 486 00:23:22,620 --> 00:23:23,980 And then we sealed the room, 487 00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:27,090 ...and I thought, if the grandmother... 488 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,360 ...had went in there and introduced the oil, 489 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:32,790 I wanted to make sure that she didn't go in the second time. 490 00:23:32,830 --> 00:23:34,190 So we stuck a Q-tip in the door, 491 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:35,960 ...at the bottom of the door, 492 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,546 ...and then we came back about 40 minutes later, 493 00:23:37,570 --> 00:23:39,206 ...after Father Maginot had blessed the house. 494 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:40,900 And the Q-tip was still in the door. 495 00:23:40,940 --> 00:23:43,140 We went in, and the blinds were dripping oil again. 496 00:23:43,170 --> 00:23:45,100 Lieutenant Gruszka went outside, 497 00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:47,770 ...and we shined flashlights on the outside of the window... 498 00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:49,240 ...to see if it was coming in... 499 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,980 ...from the outside or from the ceiling, 500 00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:54,110 ...and we could never determine the source of that. 501 00:23:57,020 --> 00:23:59,990 This CPS worker would be the next to fall victim... 502 00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:02,960 ...to the malevolent energy in this home. 503 00:24:02,990 --> 00:24:05,090 The CPS opened the cabinet, 504 00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:07,060 ...and she took her left hand, I remember. 505 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:08,530 She may be left-handed. 506 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,160 And she touched the dripping. 507 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,900 – The fluid... – The fluid. 508 00:24:11,930 --> 00:24:13,770 – That you'd been seeing. – Right, right. 509 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,270 And when she touched the fluid, 510 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:17,370 ...a whole half of her hand changed... 511 00:24:17,410 --> 00:24:19,510 ...like all the blood had been drawn out of it. 512 00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:20,570 It went white? 513 00:24:20,610 --> 00:24:21,740 White. 514 00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:23,580 It was just completely white. 515 00:24:23,610 --> 00:24:27,250 And she had to leave the house. 516 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,650 She had complained of pain in that, 517 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,190 ...and it did turn white. 518 00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:33,950 I went on the investigation, like I said, 519 00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:36,920 ...at the very beginning, thinking that it was a hoax. 520 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,460 The more investigation we did, 521 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:41,060 I believe that there's something there. 522 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,660 There's just too many people... 523 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,400 ...that I know are truthful people... 524 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:49,040 ...that saw things, some of them which I saw, 525 00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:50,700 ...to discount everything. 526 00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:54,040 I was talking to the Child Protective Services worker. 527 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,440 Her hand was starting to come back to life. 528 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,110 Okay. 529 00:24:58,150 --> 00:25:03,280 And Father Maginot came to the front porch stairs outside, 530 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,520 ...and he stood there, and he looked. 531 00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:08,450 I say, "Father, what's wrong?" 532 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:12,760 And he looked exactly like the CPS worker's hand. 533 00:25:12,790 --> 00:25:15,860 He was flush as a sheet of paper. 534 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,660 And it was like... 535 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,170 I said, "What's wrong?" 536 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,370 And he said, "The blinds are dripping." 537 00:25:27,740 --> 00:25:29,880 With so many unrelated people... 538 00:25:29,910 --> 00:25:33,750 ...finding themselves entangled in this demonic web, 539 00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:38,890 Father Maginot is compelled to help the Ammons. 540 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,590 Evidence in hand, 541 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:44,420 ...he requests permission from Bishop Dale J. Melczek... 542 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:46,830 ...to conduct an official exorcism... 543 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:49,000 ...on Latoya Ammons. 544 00:25:49,030 --> 00:25:53,300 His request is granted immediately. 545 00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:55,700 I adjure you, ancient serpent, 546 00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:58,970 ...by the judge of the living and the dead, 547 00:25:59,010 --> 00:26:00,710 ...by your creator, 548 00:26:00,740 --> 00:26:05,140 ...by Him who has the power to consign you to Hell. 549 00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:07,510 Latoya would later recount, 550 00:26:07,550 --> 00:26:11,120 ...this was the moment she felt the spirit lift from her. 551 00:26:11,150 --> 00:26:14,320 ( ATMOSPHERIC VOCAL MUSIC ) 552 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:15,660 ♪ ♪ 553 00:26:15,690 --> 00:26:17,660 The stories I had heard about this haunting... 554 00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:19,130 ...were compelling, 555 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,990 ...but as I began my own investigation, 556 00:26:21,030 --> 00:26:24,760 ...there was just one nagging question. 557 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,270 Was the whole thing a hoax? 558 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760 In early 2014, I get a call from the producer... 559 00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:52,460 ...of a very big horror film from a few years ago. 560 00:26:52,490 --> 00:26:55,130 He's threatening me because he wants the film rights... 561 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,230 ...to the Ammons story. 562 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:58,600 Due to privacy laws, 563 00:26:58,630 --> 00:27:01,200 ...his identity is disguised here. 564 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,240 (ON PHONE) Don't bully me around. 565 00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:05,610 Do not call me and threaten me. 566 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Don't call me and tell me that Mr. (BLEEP) 567 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:10,640 ...is this big-wig attorney... 568 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,880 ...and I better listen to what he's saying, 569 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:14,610 ...because you're being documented... 570 00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:16,520 ...right now by myself, 571 00:27:16,550 --> 00:27:20,720 ...listening to what appears to be threats. 572 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,220 And I didn't want to go this route. 573 00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:26,990 (VOICEOVER) So Hollywood wants the rights, 574 00:27:27,030 --> 00:27:29,460 ...which means there's money in it for the major players, 575 00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,530 ...from the Ammons family to Father Maginot. 576 00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:35,170 And now the Ammons, who originated this story, 577 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,870 ...won't talk to me, 578 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,670 ...and they're apparently talking about a movie deal. 579 00:27:42,010 --> 00:27:43,580 Oh, she won't? 580 00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:45,410 Okay. 581 00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:48,450 Are they doing something else with another movie producer? 582 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,450 Mm-hmm. 583 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,220 They are? 584 00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:55,020 Charles Reed, the home's original landlord... 585 00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:56,590 ...who I bought the house from... 586 00:27:56,620 --> 00:27:58,560 ...and who had owned it for roughly a decade, 587 00:27:58,590 --> 00:28:01,690 ...told local media that he was skeptical. 588 00:28:01,730 --> 00:28:03,260 "I thought I heard it all." 589 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:05,060 "This was a new one to me." 590 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,770 "My belief system has a hard time..." 591 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,870 "...jumping over that bridge." 592 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:10,970 And the people who were squatting in the house... 593 00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:12,540 ...when I bought it originally... 594 00:28:12,570 --> 00:28:14,570 ...told me they didn't experience anything there. 595 00:28:18,180 --> 00:28:20,410 You think it's all about money? 596 00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,420 Yeah, you want to know the truth, yeah. 597 00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:24,466 They had all these reporters out in front of my house, 598 00:28:24,490 --> 00:28:26,550 ...and I refuse to entertain something... 599 00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:29,360 ...that I'm not seeing. 600 00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:30,320 Mm-hmm. 601 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:32,020 So it's like, it's a lie. 602 00:28:32,060 --> 00:28:34,230 To me, I've been here for two years, 603 00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:35,930 ...and I hear the occasional creaks... 604 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,230 ...and this and that, 605 00:28:37,270 --> 00:28:39,100 ...but I'm thinking the house is just old. 606 00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:41,200 Whether the claims are real or false, 607 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,370 ...I'd like to find out whether they're real or false. 608 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,870 I'm not here to fabricate nothing... 609 00:28:44,910 --> 00:28:46,470 ...or sensationalize on anything. 610 00:28:46,510 --> 00:28:49,140 If people are making this up, I'm gonna catch them. 611 00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:51,410 Well, I'm telling you, I haven't seen it. 612 00:28:51,450 --> 00:28:53,510 You haven't seen any ghosts? 613 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:56,780 But as soon as I slipped her fiancé some money to leave, 614 00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:00,790 ...suddenly he had all kinds of crazy stories. 615 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,620 Your friends? 616 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:05,890 Who's your friends? 617 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:09,900 Oh, man... 618 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:13,300 When they... "Inside Edition," it really came, 619 00:29:13,330 --> 00:29:15,470 ...because they was at the story. 620 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:16,800 Mm-hmm. 621 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,140 And if I was able to... 622 00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:20,140 ...man, I had it in the bag. 623 00:29:20,170 --> 00:29:22,640 What you're offering is peanuts, man. 624 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,250 They came out here, Deborah Norville, 625 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,250 ...the other little lady, 626 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,520 ...they was out there. 627 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,450 The producer... the producer, man. 628 00:29:31,490 --> 00:29:34,950 Oh, man, when this first broke, Zak, 629 00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:36,290 ...you should have seen it, man. 630 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,760 You just getting the ass end of it. 631 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,600 Like I told them, 632 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:46,930 ...and by me not being on a lease, I was done. 633 00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:48,170 I couldn't do nothing. 634 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,840 Yeah, have you seen things in here? 635 00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:51,400 Have you seen ghosts in here? 636 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,410 I'm not gonna tell you that until we sit down... 637 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,340 ...and we sit down and make an agreement. 638 00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:59,550 You know, it's a market for it. 639 00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,650 And I've seen the market, with the people... 640 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,690 But your fiancée said that there's nothing in here. 641 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920 Well, that's her story. 642 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,090 "Inside Edition" also wanted to talk to me. 643 00:30:11,130 --> 00:30:12,430 But instead, I went to meet... 644 00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:14,660 ...with the home's original owners. 645 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,730 There, I learned that other members of the Ammons family... 646 00:30:17,770 --> 00:30:21,100 ...also took issue with the claims they were making. 647 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:23,470 Charles has got me an article here, 648 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:27,940 ...and this was published February 5, 2014. 649 00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:31,940 It says the grandmother of the possessed kids... 650 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,510 ...insists none of this went on. 651 00:30:34,550 --> 00:30:36,780 Could this be the other grandmother? 652 00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:37,780 I don't know. 653 00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:38,780 I read that... 654 00:30:38,820 --> 00:30:40,220 So Latoya Ammons, 655 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:43,020 ...her mother is the one that lived in the house, 656 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:45,020 ...that witnessed all that stuff... 657 00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:46,990 ...and did all the interviews... 658 00:30:47,030 --> 00:30:50,130 ...stating that she saw the kids being lifted up... 659 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200 ...and tons of other stuff. 660 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:55,300 So now Latoya Ammons's step-mother, 661 00:30:55,340 --> 00:30:56,840 ...which is a different woman: 662 00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:59,810 "My children, Latoya's brother and sisters," 663 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,810 "...are outraged," the step-mother told me. 664 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,840 They know the true story, and they're upset... 665 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,750 ...about the family's name being dragged through the mud. 666 00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:10,820 "My family hoped this would all blow over." 667 00:31:10,850 --> 00:31:12,620 "It has not." 668 00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:13,620 Wow. 669 00:31:13,650 --> 00:31:15,150 Wow. 670 00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:20,190 Also, a photo leaked online of a ghostly figure... 671 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:22,260 ...in one of the house's windows. 672 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:27,770 But this was almost definitely faked using a cell phone app. 673 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,700 On top of this, I had the house inspected, 674 00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:32,940 ...and the inspector found mold and other things... 675 00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:35,370 ...that could have had a psychological effect... 676 00:31:35,410 --> 00:31:36,910 ...on the residents. 677 00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:39,780 So what does the house contain? 678 00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:42,620 Asbestos, black mold, everything? 679 00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:07,270 Can that make you feel dizzy or euphoric? 680 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,386 And then you have to think about, too, 681 00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:11,780 ...if any of those elements... 682 00:32:11,810 --> 00:32:16,480 ...would affect the human mind or the body... 683 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,580 ...to perceive those side effects... 684 00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:23,190 ...as paranormal-induced type... 685 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:26,490 ...euphoria and spirit energy. 686 00:32:26,530 --> 00:32:32,470 So it's something to take into consideration. 687 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,300 I was starting to think this may be... 688 00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:37,070 ...an overblown case of mass hysteria... 689 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:39,810 ...or that there was some other normal explanation... 690 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,980 ...that was now being turned into a money grab. 691 00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:46,510 But then, with my own investigation, 692 00:32:46,550 --> 00:32:48,580 ...shit got crazy. 693 00:32:50,790 --> 00:32:52,850 One day, when we're filming at the house, 694 00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:54,190 ...a woman drives by... 695 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:57,060 ...and says she used to live there in the '90s. 696 00:32:57,090 --> 00:32:58,390 You got my audio, Jay? 697 00:32:58,430 --> 00:33:01,430 Check, check, you got it? 698 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:03,530 Did you used to live in here? 699 00:33:06,130 --> 00:33:07,830 So you used to live here, how many years? 700 00:33:07,870 --> 00:33:10,300 Just stayed, like, four or five years. 701 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,380 Did you all hear about what's been going on in here? 702 00:33:16,410 --> 00:33:17,710 Yes. 703 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:19,210 You guys have all heard about it? 704 00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:20,356 Has your mom been telling you about it? 705 00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:22,620 I saw on Facebook. 706 00:33:22,650 --> 00:33:24,250 Yeah, a lot of stuff happened here. 707 00:33:24,290 --> 00:33:27,650 If the claims are true about the demons being in here, 708 00:33:27,690 --> 00:33:29,066 I just want to make sure it's okay... 709 00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:30,620 ...for them to be in here, 710 00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:33,030 ...because the other family did have three kids also. 711 00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:34,460 Oh, for real? 712 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:36,660 Yeah, except they were two boys and one girl. 713 00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:38,060 What? 714 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,830 Mom, are you giving them permission to go inside? 715 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:42,600 Yeah, y'all just have to be careful, 716 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,170 ...because like I said, I ain't been here in a couple years. 717 00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:47,010 ( KEYS JINGLING ) 718 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:52,450 My mama's landlord used to own this house. 719 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,450 You ready? 720 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,580 I am ready. 721 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520 This was my room. 722 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:02,490 The skeleton... the skeleton key doors? 723 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,860 Used to be skeleton keys. 724 00:34:03,890 --> 00:34:04,990 Really? 725 00:34:05,030 --> 00:34:06,630 Not all the doors were skeletons. 726 00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:08,690 These are the latch doors. 727 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,100 This was your room, right here? 728 00:34:19,410 --> 00:34:21,470 My bed was right here. 729 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:22,640 How old were you then? 730 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,110 I was, like, 10. 731 00:34:24,150 --> 00:34:25,180 Teenagers? 732 00:34:25,210 --> 00:34:26,610 Yeah, something like that. 733 00:34:26,650 --> 00:34:28,650 What does it feel like to be back in here? 734 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,750 Oh, my God, I'm shocked. 735 00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:32,820 – Yeah? – I'm shocked. 736 00:34:32,850 --> 00:34:36,690 Mika, do you ever, ever remember anything happening... 737 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:39,230 ...to you or your friends or your family... 738 00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:41,290 ...that was strange? 739 00:34:41,330 --> 00:34:42,560 Well, my friend Kaneshia, 740 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,630 ...we used to leave my friend Kaneshia here, 741 00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:46,200 ...and when we would come back, 742 00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:48,470 ...she used to be saying stuff like she heard noises. 743 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:50,170 Did she ever say what kind of noises? 744 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,870 Like footsteps going. 745 00:34:51,910 --> 00:34:54,710 She did hear people walking around? 746 00:34:58,350 --> 00:34:59,410 That's the basement. 747 00:34:59,450 --> 00:35:01,450 I never went to the basement. 748 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,180 Did you never like to go in the basement? 749 00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:04,080 No. 750 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,980 Do you want to go in the basement now? 751 00:35:05,020 --> 00:35:07,020 Yeah, if you go first. 752 00:35:07,050 --> 00:35:10,020 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 753 00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:13,990 ♪ ♪ 754 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:14,990 You okay? 755 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:16,000 You need a hand? 756 00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:17,060 You good? 757 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,606 Why did you never want to come down here? 758 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:20,700 Did you just feel something bad down here? 759 00:35:20,730 --> 00:35:22,300 I didn't come in the basement. 760 00:35:22,340 --> 00:35:25,170 This is actually my first time being in the basement. 761 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:26,716 I've never came into the basement. (MUMBLES) 762 00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:30,210 Ooh, Danny, you kicked me. 763 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,210 I didn't kick you. 764 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:32,210 Yes, you did. 765 00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:33,210 Don't kick me. 766 00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:34,210 Shit. 767 00:35:34,250 --> 00:35:35,750 Excuse my French, sorry. 768 00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:37,850 No, you can say whatever. 769 00:35:37,890 --> 00:35:39,150 You can say whatever you want. 770 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:40,150 Oh, no. 771 00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:41,750 What's wrong? 772 00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:44,390 Upon reviewing the video with greater brightness, 773 00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:46,830 ...you can see her leg buckle, 774 00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:48,090 ...but nobody kicked her. 775 00:35:48,130 --> 00:35:50,130 I never came into the basement. (MUMBLES) 776 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,730 Ooh, Danny, you kicked me. 777 00:35:52,770 --> 00:35:53,930 I didn't kick you. 778 00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:54,930 Yes, you did. 779 00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:56,340 Don't kick me. 780 00:35:56,370 --> 00:35:57,740 Do you not like it down here? 781 00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:59,470 No, I never really liked the basement. 782 00:35:59,510 --> 00:36:00,540 No? Why not? 783 00:36:00,570 --> 00:36:01,870 Just didn't. 784 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:03,410 No? 785 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,010 My brother stayed in the basement. 786 00:36:17,420 --> 00:36:18,460 Is your mom okay? 787 00:36:18,490 --> 00:36:19,790 I don't know. 788 00:36:19,830 --> 00:36:21,260 I guess she's scared. 789 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:22,260 That's why she wants to leave. 790 00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:23,260 Yeah? 791 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:24,800 She all creeped out. 792 00:36:24,830 --> 00:36:26,576 I want to do that little, turn off the lights, 793 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,800 ...and then the green stuff... 794 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,116 ...so you can see and hear everything. 795 00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:30,600 – The night vision camera? – Yeah. 796 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,640 It's scarier than watching it on TV. 797 00:36:32,670 --> 00:36:34,470 They can get inside of you and stuff... 798 00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:35,816 ...and do all kinds of weird stuff. 799 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,240 They can make you sick, and that ain't fun. 800 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,810 It's happened to me. 801 00:36:39,850 --> 00:36:42,350 Who helped you, like, get that stuff out of you? 802 00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:43,920 A priest. 803 00:36:43,950 --> 00:36:47,020 And that's when you started wanting to do ghost hunting? 804 00:36:47,050 --> 00:36:48,420 Well, yeah. 805 00:36:48,460 --> 00:36:49,890 More or less, investigating. 806 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160 That's what brought me here. 807 00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:55,190 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 808 00:36:55,230 --> 00:37:02,270 ♪ ♪ 809 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,280 Is the demon still in the house, 810 00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:10,580 ...or have they moved on? 811 00:37:10,610 --> 00:37:11,810 I don't know. 812 00:37:11,850 --> 00:37:13,850 That's what I'm here to find out. 813 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,710 Will the ghost come to our house, 814 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:17,520 ...since she lived here? 815 00:37:17,550 --> 00:37:18,566 Are you worried about that? 816 00:37:18,590 --> 00:37:19,550 Yep. 817 00:37:19,590 --> 00:37:21,050 – You are? – Yep. 818 00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:22,290 A real worry? 819 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,990 Yeah, 'cause I'm afraid. 820 00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:27,490 Mm-mm. 821 00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:30,730 Mm-mm. 822 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,800 Mika's microphone has just picked up... 823 00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:36,000 ...a mysterious electronic voice phenomena. 824 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:41,440 It sounds like, "Run, Latoya." 825 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,240 Mm-mm. 826 00:37:44,980 --> 00:37:46,680 Mm-mm. 827 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,820 Latoya, of course, is the name of the mother... 828 00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:54,690 ...in the Ammons family. 829 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,760 It's funny, her son was asking me... 830 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,700 ...with a serious look on his face... 831 00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:09,770 ...if the ghosts were gonna follow him home. 832 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:17,710 I don't know what's wrong with this boy. 833 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,250 ( EXHALES ) 834 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,420 Cold, with these demons. 835 00:38:26,450 --> 00:38:28,690 After Mika and her kids leave, 836 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:32,960 ...we set up this religious altar in the living room. 837 00:38:32,990 --> 00:38:37,160 Moments later, something I can't explain overcomes me. 838 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,170 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 839 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:46,510 ♪ ♪ 840 00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:50,340 This moment is only captured on the surveillance camera. 841 00:39:11,830 --> 00:39:13,070 – Billy? – Yeah? 842 00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,700 What in the fuck just happened? 843 00:39:14,740 --> 00:39:16,670 Well, you attacked Jay. 844 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:19,510 You told him, "Get the fuck out." 845 00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:21,010 You said, "Get out, get out!" 846 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,710 Then you, like, rushed him. 847 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:26,380 You basically slammed me against the wall. 848 00:39:38,430 --> 00:39:39,390 Give me the keys. 849 00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:40,390 Come outside for a bit. 850 00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:41,390 I don't want to. 851 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:42,390 I know you don't. 852 00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:43,430 You need to, though. 853 00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:46,330 All right, just hold on. 854 00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:49,330 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 855 00:39:49,370 --> 00:39:53,040 We leave and drive around for an hour. 856 00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:55,610 Then, the man living next-door calls me. 857 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,880 He tells me there's someone on my porch... 858 00:39:57,910 --> 00:40:00,680 ...trying to break in. 859 00:40:00,710 --> 00:40:02,950 Are they turning my house? 860 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:04,480 Yeah, go over there. 861 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,320 Go over there. 862 00:40:06,350 --> 00:40:08,720 Right now, we are just around my house, 863 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,690 ...and we see three police cars... 864 00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:13,630 ...turning down the street to my house. 865 00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:15,390 Yeah, pull up over there. 866 00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:18,760 Go, go, go. 867 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,430 Hang on. 868 00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:21,700 Slow down, Matt. 869 00:40:21,740 --> 00:40:24,300 Jeez, god. 870 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,720 The police won't go near my house. 871 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:44,320 What I've witnessed is, yeah. 872 00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:50,830 I saw the video that Chief Miller filmed. 873 00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:53,400 Yeah. 874 00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:54,930 No. 875 00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:08,310 If you want to wait, I'll take you guys in there. 876 00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:13,490 Chief says he refuses to ever do it, 877 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,890 ...because stuff follows you. 878 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,420 Yes, that shit'll follow you. 879 00:41:16,460 --> 00:41:18,190 I won't tell him that. 880 00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:25,160 It's a different kind of haunting. 881 00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:29,030 Yeah. 882 00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:33,010 No, we get answer. 883 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,840 We could get answers. 884 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,810 We can get answers. 885 00:41:43,650 --> 00:41:47,250 The next day, we tracked down Valerie Washington, 886 00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:51,820 ...the original CPS case manager who quit and moved away. 887 00:41:51,860 --> 00:41:54,030 Now, you were in the video... 888 00:41:54,060 --> 00:41:57,200 ...that was shot by Chief Brian Miller. 889 00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:58,260 Yes. 890 00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,300 I'ma get ready to leave you guys. 891 00:42:00,330 --> 00:42:01,330 Okay. 892 00:42:01,370 --> 00:42:03,070 – I got another case. – Okay. 893 00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:07,340 Do you still feel what you witnessed that day... 894 00:42:07,370 --> 00:42:11,080 ...was beyond the capabilities of a 9-year-old boy? 895 00:42:11,110 --> 00:42:15,310 I'm positive in regards to that matter. 896 00:42:15,350 --> 00:42:17,580 Sometimes, even thinking about it again, 897 00:42:17,620 --> 00:42:19,120 ...it kind of just throws me back... 898 00:42:19,150 --> 00:42:24,060 ...into a series where I don't want to go back to. 899 00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:27,560 It's taken me a while to move past that. 900 00:42:27,590 --> 00:42:31,560 When he did walk up the wall... 901 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,570 ...before my eyes, 902 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,370 ...he could not remember doing it five minutes afterwards, 903 00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:41,010 ...after he was questioned about it, 904 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,610 ...after they asked him questions about it. 905 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,080 Child couldn't remember. 906 00:42:45,110 --> 00:42:47,010 He looked at us like, what are we talking about? 907 00:42:47,050 --> 00:42:48,780 He didn't even understand the question... 908 00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:50,350 ...that we were asking him. 909 00:42:50,380 --> 00:42:54,850 And the fact that myself and the psychiatrist... 910 00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:58,290 ...witnessed this, along with the family. 911 00:42:58,330 --> 00:43:00,190 We had no words to explain it, 912 00:43:00,230 --> 00:43:03,030 ...because we didn't understand it either. 913 00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:04,860 And the child couldn't even explain it. 914 00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,100 He didn't even believe he did anything. 915 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:09,640 Do you believe that this family was possessed... 916 00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:11,240 ...by these demons? 917 00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:12,986 I believe that it was something going on there... 918 00:43:13,010 --> 00:43:17,510 ...that was out of the realm of a normal living person. 919 00:43:17,540 --> 00:43:21,380 Something was going on I can't even explain... 920 00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:22,680 ...at that house. 921 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,820 Have you sustained any emotional or mental trauma... 922 00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:28,450 ...from what you witnessed? 923 00:43:28,490 --> 00:43:30,160 Yes. 924 00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:32,990 Is this a factor in you leaving here in Indiana? 925 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:34,330 It played into it, 926 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,800 ...because after that, a lot had changed... 927 00:43:36,830 --> 00:43:42,130 ...as far as me trying to do my daily routine work. 928 00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:44,270 I worked as a child fatality worker. 929 00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:47,010 I investigated children dying. 930 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,840 I've seen children in various situations... 931 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,240 ...burned, beaten. 932 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,450 But after that, it was just... 933 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,280 It was traumatic. 934 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,020 And I also talked with a psychiatrist... 935 00:44:00,050 --> 00:44:01,090 ...in regards to that, 936 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,450 ...and she stated also, 937 00:44:02,490 --> 00:44:04,920 ...it was a very traumatic experience for me... 938 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,030 ...and that I did need to go and seek some help. 939 00:44:10,060 --> 00:44:12,960 I have witnessed that anyone... 940 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 ...that has ever went to that home, 941 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,170 ...the effects that they had... 942 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,240 ...after they continuously went to that home, 943 00:44:20,270 --> 00:44:21,716 ...the things that happened to them... 944 00:44:21,740 --> 00:44:23,110 ( GROWLING ) 945 00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:24,810 I do not like talking about it, 946 00:44:24,850 --> 00:44:29,010 ...because, to me, if you feed it as if you're scared, 947 00:44:29,050 --> 00:44:30,950 ...it will bother you. 948 00:44:59,210 --> 00:45:00,880 The day before Father Maginot... 949 00:45:00,910 --> 00:45:03,850 ...was going to perform the second exorcism on Latoya, 950 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,250 ...he experienced what he describes as an attack... 951 00:45:07,290 --> 00:45:08,790 ...while on a bike ride. 952 00:45:08,820 --> 00:45:11,390 As I was riding through the neighborhood, 953 00:45:11,420 --> 00:45:14,990 ...anyone who looks up to me is staring at me... 954 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:16,330 ...with a puzzled look, 955 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,830 ...like, "What in the world is riding by?" 956 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:20,230 And so that was happening... 957 00:45:20,270 --> 00:45:22,300 ...all the way to the end of the path. 958 00:45:22,340 --> 00:45:24,770 And all of a sudden, I'm on the side of the path, 959 00:45:24,810 --> 00:45:27,010 ...thrown down. 960 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,310 How did that happen? 961 00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:29,740 Then I looked at my bicycle seat, 962 00:45:29,780 --> 00:45:32,140 ...and it was 45 degrees off. 963 00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:57,340 Captain Austin was also affected. 964 00:45:57,370 --> 00:45:59,870 Just two days after I interviewed him... 965 00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:01,310 ...in the house, 966 00:46:01,340 --> 00:46:03,610 ...he found himself in the emergency room. 967 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,280 I exited a restaurant. 968 00:46:05,310 --> 00:46:06,510 I was in full uniform. 969 00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:08,010 And when I exited the restaurant, 970 00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:09,356 I had the dinners in my right hand, 971 00:46:09,380 --> 00:46:11,180 I was walking towards my squad car. 972 00:46:11,220 --> 00:46:12,650 I walked down the sidewalk, 973 00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:14,820 ...and as I walked down the sidewalk, 974 00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:16,450 ...both feet slid on the ice... 975 00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:18,820 ...and went up about 3 feet in the air. 976 00:46:18,860 --> 00:46:21,560 I did a somersault and fell on my head. 977 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,900 I was unconscious for approximately a month... 978 00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:26,600 ...a minute, a minute. 979 00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:29,000 And I was bleeding from my head. 980 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,470 Everybody came out the restaurant. 981 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,240 They was hollering and screaming. 982 00:46:32,270 --> 00:46:33,710 And they called the ambulance, 983 00:46:33,740 --> 00:46:35,486 ...and they transported me to Methodist South... 984 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:38,080 ...or Methodist Northlake Hospital. 985 00:46:38,110 --> 00:46:40,980 Captain Austin would also end up being shot... 986 00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:43,150 ...during a home invasion, 987 00:46:43,180 --> 00:46:46,320 ...but he survived. 988 00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:48,320 As I make my way back to the hotel, 989 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,590 I receive a phone call from a distressed Mika. 990 00:46:51,630 --> 00:46:52,520 ( PHONE RINGING ) 991 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,090 Something is terribly wrong. 992 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,330 We were out at my daughter's pageant. 993 00:46:58,370 --> 00:46:59,900 I don't know. 994 00:46:59,930 --> 00:47:01,270 My mama came back. 995 00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:06,540 When did this happen, just now? 996 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,210 Will you call us back after the police leave? 997 00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:20,190 Yes. 998 00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:22,690 On February 20, 2014, 999 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,720 ...just two days after visiting us at my house, 1000 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,930 Mika's daughter attempted suicide... 1001 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,900 ...by overdosing on medication and stabbing herself. 1002 00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:42,440 After this incident, 1003 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,280 ...one of my crew members quits immediately. 1004 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,650 ( DOGS BARKING ) 1005 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,700 Father Maginot. 1006 00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:07,030 Okay, hi there. 1007 00:48:07,070 --> 00:48:08,870 – How you doing? – Pretty good. 1008 00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:10,040 This is Mika. 1009 00:48:10,070 --> 00:48:12,100 – Hi, Mika, Father Mike. – Hello. 1010 00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:13,640 It's been three weeks... 1011 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:17,140 ...since I got the phone call about Erica. 1012 00:48:17,180 --> 00:48:18,510 This is Erica. 1013 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:20,210 And Erica, pleased to meet you. 1014 00:48:20,250 --> 00:48:21,910 Father Mike. 1015 00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:24,320 Do you mind if I talk with her real quick? 1016 00:48:24,350 --> 00:48:25,320 Okay. 1017 00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:26,320 For, like, five minutes? 1018 00:48:26,350 --> 00:48:27,350 – Okay. – Okay. 1019 00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:29,450 Erica, do you want to... 1020 00:48:34,490 --> 00:48:39,060 Do you remember going in that house? 1021 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:42,400 Remember when you went in with me and your mom? 1022 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,840 Like, a month ago? 1023 00:48:48,310 --> 00:48:52,410 Do you remember when you went inside the house with me? 1024 00:48:52,450 --> 00:48:55,110 Three weeks. 1025 00:48:55,150 --> 00:48:56,720 That's how long it's been... 1026 00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:59,480 ...since Erica spent time with me in the house. 1027 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,220 Is the demon still in the house, 1028 00:49:01,250 --> 00:49:04,720 ...or have they moved on? 1029 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,160 Do you remember a couple days later, 1030 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:12,360 ...things that were going on with you and your mom? 1031 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,500 Partially. 1032 00:49:13,530 --> 00:49:15,030 That day was, like, in and out. 1033 00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:16,530 Okay. 1034 00:49:16,570 --> 00:49:22,140 Do you remember what caused you to get angry? 1035 00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:23,180 No? 1036 00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:24,340 No. 1037 00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:26,780 Okay, did it feel like you, 1038 00:49:26,810 --> 00:49:29,580 ...or did it feel like just someone else out of nowhere? 1039 00:49:29,620 --> 00:49:31,780 Not when I threatened my mother. 1040 00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:33,690 Have you ever threatened her like that? 1041 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:34,590 No. 1042 00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:36,820 Okay, what did you tell her? 1043 00:49:36,860 --> 00:49:38,960 That I was gonna kill her, mostly. 1044 00:49:38,990 --> 00:49:40,190 Okay, in her sleep? 1045 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:41,660 – Mm-hmm. – Okay. 1046 00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:44,130 Do you remember hurting yourself that day? 1047 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,460 Um... 1048 00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:48,130 Do you remember stabbing yourself? 1049 00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:49,770 No, I just... no. 1050 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,100 She had holes in her wrists. 1051 00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:53,440 Her eyes were, like, red. 1052 00:49:53,470 --> 00:49:54,510 How did she have holes? 1053 00:49:54,540 --> 00:49:55,910 In both her wrists? 1054 00:49:55,940 --> 00:49:57,316 In both her wrists, just little cuts, 1055 00:49:57,340 --> 00:49:58,910 ...like she had stabbed her wrists. 1056 00:49:58,950 --> 00:50:00,150 – With... – A pen. 1057 00:50:00,180 --> 00:50:01,580 And my sister is an RN. 1058 00:50:01,610 --> 00:50:03,420 – In both, you said? – Yes. 1059 00:50:03,450 --> 00:50:05,150 Like when Jesus would have been crucified. 1060 00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:06,750 Yes, yes. 1061 00:50:14,590 --> 00:50:15,976 It was scary, because, like I said, 1062 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,300 I never seen that. 1063 00:50:17,330 --> 00:50:18,300 Something was wrong with her. 1064 00:50:18,330 --> 00:50:19,800 She wasn't Erica. 1065 00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:21,730 – She wasn't her? – She was not Erica. 1066 00:50:21,770 --> 00:50:24,940 ( ATMOSPHERIC VOCAL MUSIC ) 1067 00:50:24,970 --> 00:50:32,010 ♪ ♪ 1068 00:50:35,150 --> 00:50:37,950 "The influence sometimes surrounds..." 1069 00:50:37,980 --> 00:50:41,450 "...a young girl or woman." 1070 00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:43,120 "When life is void to her," 1071 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,330 "...the influence whispers that it is her own fault..." 1072 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,400 "...and that she is worthless and should commit suicide." 1073 00:50:52,430 --> 00:50:55,570 ♪ ♪ 1074 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,840 "Dear Sister, do not believe it." 1075 00:50:58,870 --> 00:51:02,470 "Satan was a liar from the beginning." 1076 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,420 Okay, then we'll just have Erica and you... 1077 00:51:12,450 --> 00:51:15,450 ...come sit right here, okay? 1078 00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:22,430 ( OMINOUS MUSIC ) 1079 00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:24,200 Oh, water, creature of God, 1080 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:28,770 I exorcise you in the name of God the Father Almighty, 1081 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,070 ...the name of Jesus Christ, His Son, our Lord... 1082 00:51:32,110 --> 00:51:35,770 My daughter was screaming at me. 1083 00:51:35,810 --> 00:51:37,280 Talking about, "I can't stand you!" 1084 00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:38,810 "I can't stand you!" 1085 00:51:38,850 --> 00:51:40,950 Is this typical of your daughter's behavior? 1086 00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:42,050 No. 1087 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,620 I mean, it was strange. 1088 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:45,496 You've never seen the rage like this before ever? 1089 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,990 No, it was strange. 1090 00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:48,936 It was like everybody was trying to calm her down, 1091 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,136 ...and she was just snapping off. 1092 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,360 Look down in pity on this, 1093 00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:54,460 ...your servant Erica, 1094 00:51:54,490 --> 00:51:57,830 ...now in the toils of the unclean spirit, 1095 00:51:57,860 --> 00:52:00,330 ...now caught up in the fearsome threats... 1096 00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:02,470 ...of man's ancient enemy, 1097 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:04,540 ...sworn full of our race. 1098 00:52:04,570 --> 00:52:05,940 Another weird thing... 1099 00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:08,240 ...that happened when we was at the hospital... 1100 00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:11,910 ...and I'm not making this up, on everything I love... 1101 00:52:11,950 --> 00:52:14,410 ...my daughter was laying in the bed. 1102 00:52:14,450 --> 00:52:15,880 And where Erica got up, 1103 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,350 ...there was a "6," like, engraved in her back. 1104 00:52:19,390 --> 00:52:20,520 So my daughter was like... 1105 00:52:20,550 --> 00:52:21,750 Wait, what? 1106 00:52:21,790 --> 00:52:22,920 A "6," like a number "6." 1107 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,360 Was engraved in whose back? 1108 00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:25,920 It was in Erica's back. 1109 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,290 "Mommy, Mommy, Erica got a 6 on her back." 1110 00:52:29,330 --> 00:52:31,200 Do you remember seeing this 6 1111 00:52:31,230 --> 00:52:32,560 ...that was carved in her back? 1112 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:33,830 Yeah. 1113 00:52:33,870 --> 00:52:36,570 She was being all calm and weird. 1114 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,270 How was she being weird? 1115 00:52:38,300 --> 00:52:39,840 Because it wasn't her. 1116 00:52:39,870 --> 00:52:41,846 Like it was somebody else in her stomach or something. 1117 00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:45,310 Do you know how this 6 got carved in her? 1118 00:52:45,350 --> 00:52:46,310 Mm-mm. 1119 00:52:46,350 --> 00:52:50,980 It was a number six. 1120 00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:52,250 Let us pray. 1121 00:52:52,290 --> 00:52:55,320 God, creator and defender of the human race, 1122 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,190 Who made man in your own image, 1123 00:52:58,220 --> 00:53:02,090 Look down in pity on this, your servant Erica... 1124 00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:05,330 (ECHOING) now in the toils of the unclean spirit... 1125 00:53:05,370 --> 00:53:08,700 So it seemed like that might have been the moment. 1126 00:53:08,740 --> 00:53:09,870 Of what? 1127 00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:11,740 The moment that it might have... 1128 00:53:11,770 --> 00:53:13,400 – Left her? – Left her. 1129 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,040 So it seemed like it... you know... 1130 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,810 So I don't know if that's what she does. 1131 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,840 She doesn't remember that. 1132 00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:24,480 After news of Erica's attempted suicide... 1133 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,880 ...hit the media, 1134 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,290 ...my dear friend Debby Constantino, 1135 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,420 ...who'd been on my show numerous times... 1136 00:53:30,460 --> 00:53:31,890 ...with her husband, Mark, 1137 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,790 ...saw the headlines and began to try... 1138 00:53:33,830 --> 00:53:36,960 ...to make contact with the demon remotely. 1139 00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:50,580 After her attempt, she called me... 1140 00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:53,440 ...and told me that she believed they had made contact... 1141 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,280 ...with a demon at the house. 1142 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,280 The voice she captured is deep and difficult to understand. 1143 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,620 ( GARBLED SPEECH ) 1144 00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:11,030 It almost sounds like it's saying, "Something's wrong." 1145 00:54:11,060 --> 00:54:13,400 ( GARBLED SPEECH ) 1146 00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:14,670 ( TAPE REWINDS ) 1147 00:54:18,140 --> 00:54:21,740 Tragically, just a few months after this recording was made, 1148 00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:23,610 Debby and her roommate were murdered... 1149 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,150 ...in a double murder-suicide at the hands of her husband. 1150 00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:29,550 This hit me hard. 1151 00:54:29,580 --> 00:54:31,150 I couldn't accept it. 1152 00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:34,850 I felt like I had lost a member of my family. 1153 00:54:38,260 --> 00:54:40,120 I believe that certain environments... 1154 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,360 ...can make demonic activity more likely. 1155 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:49,100 Poverty, high crime rates, murders can all contribute. 1156 00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:52,670 Gary, Indiana, unfortunately fits the bill, 1157 00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:54,610 ...with over a third of its population... 1158 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,640 ...living below the poverty line... 1159 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:02,980 ...and one of the highest murder rates in the country. 1160 00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:05,620 You guys ever heard gunshots around your neighborhood, 1161 00:55:05,650 --> 00:55:07,390 ...around your house? 1162 00:55:07,420 --> 00:55:08,620 – Yes. – Yes. 1163 00:55:08,650 --> 00:55:10,050 We live down there. 1164 00:55:10,090 --> 00:55:11,620 Do you know where the house is, 1165 00:55:11,660 --> 00:55:13,020 ...where the drive-by was? 1166 00:55:13,060 --> 00:55:14,430 Yes, it's, like, right... 1167 00:55:14,460 --> 00:55:15,990 That green house right there. 1168 00:55:16,030 --> 00:55:18,200 A lot of the elderly are getting robbed here, 1169 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:20,000 ...and houses are getting broken into. 1170 00:55:20,030 --> 00:55:21,600 We need to bring jobs back. 1171 00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:24,470 We need to get the schools back open in Gary. 1172 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:28,870 It hurts me to my heart. 1173 00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:30,780 The Ammons' old neighbor told me... 1174 00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:32,910 ...that a total of five people died... 1175 00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:34,750 ...while living in the house, 1176 00:55:34,780 --> 00:55:36,580 ...and one of those was a little boy... 1177 00:55:36,620 --> 00:55:40,590 ...that died in the back bedroom downstairs in the basement. 1178 00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:42,220 It's the same bedroom... 1179 00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:46,320 ...that Mika's murdered brother had lived in. 1180 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,730 I also had to consider that someone close to the Ammonses... 1181 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,300 ...may have cursed the house... 1182 00:55:51,330 --> 00:55:55,130 ...and invited the activity on purpose. 1183 00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:58,040 Latoya Ammons's former neighbor also told me... 1184 00:55:58,070 --> 00:56:01,170 ...that her ex-boyfriend may have been abusive. 1185 00:56:01,210 --> 00:56:04,510 Was he the one who had put the altar under the stairs, 1186 00:56:04,540 --> 00:56:07,850 ...possibly trying to curse her? 1187 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,980 I decided I would try to confront him... 1188 00:56:10,020 --> 00:56:12,150 ...to get some answers. 1189 00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:17,090 How far are we? 1190 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,360 2.7 miles. 1191 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:22,330 Oh, my God, my nerves are just fuckin'... 1192 00:56:25,060 --> 00:56:28,370 Our secret informant who's been on surveillance over there... 1193 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,300 ...just called and said that he's there. 1194 00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:36,770 And right now, I'm really tense for this, 1195 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:37,940 ...but happy. 1196 00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:40,380 So we'll see what happens. 1197 00:56:45,180 --> 00:56:47,750 I want to talk to him and ask him... 1198 00:56:47,790 --> 00:56:49,090 ...if he had anything to do... 1199 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,520 ...with putting a curse on that family. 1200 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,830 Even if he won't tell me, 1201 00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:55,930 I can still just get a good sense... 1202 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,700 ...of his personality. 1203 00:56:58,730 --> 00:57:00,900 I'll get a sense of his energy, 1204 00:57:00,930 --> 00:57:03,470 ...to see if he would be the type of person... 1205 00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:06,470 ...that would be into the occult. 1206 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,780 This is gonna be him? 1207 00:57:13,810 --> 00:57:15,110 Yeah, that's gonna be him. 1208 00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:17,020 – Yeah, that's him? – Yep. 1209 00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:23,220 ( TAPE FAST-FORWARDING ) 1210 00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:28,490 ( UNINTELLIGIBLE CHATTER ) 1211 00:57:40,070 --> 00:57:42,640 I told him what this was all about. 1212 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,680 Man, he just dropped his head. 1213 00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:46,856 He was like, "Man, I don't want nothing to do with that." 1214 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,750 "I don't want to talk about it." 1215 00:57:51,980 --> 00:57:53,450 He keeps repeating... 1216 00:57:53,490 --> 00:57:56,750 ...that he wants nothing to do with us. 1217 00:57:56,790 --> 00:57:58,390 Thank you. 1218 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,100 It appears to be a dead end. 1219 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,640 I invite Dr. Barry Taff, 1220 00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:14,870 ...who holds a doctorate in psychophysiology, 1221 00:58:14,910 --> 00:58:17,380 ...a minor in biomedical engineering, 1222 00:58:17,410 --> 00:58:21,450 ...and who's conducted over 4,500 investigations, 1223 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,620 ...including the famed "Entity" case in 1974, 1224 00:58:25,650 --> 00:58:28,020 ...to help me try to decide if high levels... 1225 00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:30,220 ...of man-made electromagnetic... 1226 00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:32,920 ...or earth-made geomagnetic energy... 1227 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,630 ...could be causing false positive... 1228 00:58:34,660 --> 00:58:39,560 ...paranormal events inside the house. 1229 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,400 This is the frequency counter here. 1230 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,300 And we plugged it in, 1231 00:58:44,340 --> 00:58:48,210 ...and it showed 60 hertz fields throughout the whole house, 1232 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,740 ...higher than I would want. 1233 00:58:49,780 --> 00:58:51,680 But it wasn't that bad. 1234 00:58:51,710 --> 00:58:54,310 Then we come to this. 1235 00:58:54,350 --> 00:58:56,350 Dr. Taff, what is the geomagnetometer? 1236 00:58:56,380 --> 00:58:57,920 What are we gonna measure for here? 1237 00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:59,520 Are these natural geomagnetic levels? 1238 00:58:59,550 --> 00:59:02,050 It measures the earth's magnetic field, primarily. 1239 00:59:02,090 --> 00:59:05,020 Okay, so this, we're not looking so much... 1240 00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:06,820 ...as the house... 1241 00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:08,230 Right. 1242 00:59:08,260 --> 00:59:09,806 But what's under the house in the ground. 1243 00:59:09,830 --> 00:59:11,430 Right, and coming up from it. 1244 00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:12,660 Right. 1245 00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:15,030 High levels of geomagnetic energy... 1246 00:59:15,070 --> 00:59:16,770 ...could trick the brain into thinking... 1247 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,570 ...there was paranormal activity when there wasn't any. 1248 00:59:20,610 --> 00:59:21,670 This is very normal. 1249 00:59:21,710 --> 00:59:23,910 We're getting low 500s. 1250 00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:25,380 This is what I would expect. 1251 00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:28,110 You start getting over 600, 700, 1252 00:59:28,150 --> 00:59:29,410 ...then you have a problem, 1253 00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:31,450 ...because it means something is creating... 1254 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,750 ...this low-frequency magnetic field. 1255 00:59:34,790 --> 00:59:35,920 And what is it? 1256 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,660 What are your readings? 1257 00:59:38,690 --> 00:59:40,730 About normal. 1258 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,230 Everything is normal here. 1259 00:59:43,260 --> 00:59:47,100 Took out the 60 hertz calibrated field meter. 1260 00:59:47,130 --> 00:59:49,770 Then, a few feet away from the wall, 1261 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,200 ...about halfway up my body, 1262 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,010 I started seeing, like, a 1-hertz oscillation. 1263 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,610 Look, look. 1264 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,210 Yeah. 1265 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,210 Why is it spiking here like this? 1266 01:00:01,250 --> 01:00:02,680 Why is it doing that? 1267 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,720 Don't know. 1268 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:08,150 Huh. 1269 01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:09,590 We tested the walls. 1270 01:00:09,620 --> 01:00:11,560 It's not the wall, look. 1271 01:00:11,590 --> 01:00:13,490 Yeah. 1272 01:00:13,530 --> 01:00:14,490 Why is it... 1273 01:00:14,530 --> 01:00:15,290 I don't know. 1274 01:00:15,330 --> 01:00:17,400 Floating right there? 1275 01:00:19,070 --> 01:00:22,030 That's weird. 1276 01:00:22,070 --> 01:00:24,170 Now it's, like, gone. 1277 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,070 So it's transient. 1278 01:00:27,110 --> 01:00:29,670 And what was odd is the transient nature. 1279 01:00:29,710 --> 01:00:30,810 It's not against the wall. 1280 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,810 It's not on the floor. 1281 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:32,880 It's not up above. 1282 01:00:32,910 --> 01:00:34,280 It's a couple feet forward. 1283 01:00:34,310 --> 01:00:35,726 It's a couple feet, middle of the room. 1284 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:36,780 ...half my height up, 1285 01:00:36,820 --> 01:00:38,180 ...and it's... 1286 01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:39,580 – Pulsing. – Pulsing. 1287 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:42,050 Whoa. 1288 01:00:42,090 --> 01:00:44,020 I'm getting a... 1289 01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:49,060 Hang on. 1290 01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:50,800 What's the matter? 1291 01:00:50,830 --> 01:00:52,500 Ooh. 1292 01:00:54,670 --> 01:00:57,640 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 1293 01:00:57,670 --> 01:01:04,710 ♪ ♪ 1294 01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:11,250 Hmm. 1295 01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:20,420 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 1296 01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:22,830 Then, shortly after is when I felt... 1297 01:01:22,860 --> 01:01:24,606 – ...the pain in my temples, – The rush of energy, yeah. 1298 01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:26,830 ...and then I had to leave that room. 1299 01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:28,270 And when I left that room, 1300 01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:30,800 I started getting emotional a second time, 1301 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,140 ...like I was just gonna cry. 1302 01:01:32,170 --> 01:01:34,740 And then I would get aggressive. 1303 01:01:38,410 --> 01:01:41,550 My eyes begin hurting for no reason, 1304 01:01:41,580 --> 01:01:44,080 ...and I don't realize it's a warning sign... 1305 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,890 ...for what's to come. 1306 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,990 That's what happens. 1307 01:01:49,020 --> 01:01:50,650 It comes in, and it'll hit... 1308 01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:53,160 Ah. 1309 01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:54,636 Slap your hand together like that again. 1310 01:01:54,660 --> 01:01:55,890 ( HAND SMACKS ) 1311 01:01:55,930 --> 01:01:57,160 Just as you did that, 1312 01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,260 ...we got a spike on the instrument. 1313 01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:00,400 That's what happens. 1314 01:02:00,430 --> 01:02:02,370 It comes in, and it'll hit me... 1315 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,200 Ah. 1316 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,000 Why would that happen? 1317 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,070 Your body is, in some way... 1318 01:02:07,110 --> 01:02:09,210 ...it's not... well, it's in some way... 1319 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,180 ...affecting the electromagnetic field here. 1320 01:02:12,210 --> 01:02:13,640 Your body is a capacitor. 1321 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,350 It's being charged up by this environment, 1322 01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:18,250 ...and you discharged it. 1323 01:02:21,390 --> 01:02:24,090 Let me see if I'm getting it off him, then. 1324 01:02:26,630 --> 01:02:29,530 Let's try that back. 1325 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,360 I'm getting real aggravated. 1326 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,170 Look, look, look, look, look. 1327 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,300 It's magnetic, look. 1328 01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:38,970 We didn't get that before, did we? 1329 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,100 No. 1330 01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:41,870 20 milligauss coming off you. 1331 01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:43,410 That's a little high. 1332 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,210 Why would your body be emitting... now, remember, 1333 01:02:46,250 --> 01:02:49,180 ...biomagnetic fields are really weak. 1334 01:02:49,220 --> 01:02:51,680 You need a superconducting sensor. 1335 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,750 And what was I giving off? 1336 01:02:53,790 --> 01:02:55,350 20 milligauss? 1337 01:02:55,390 --> 01:02:57,890 About maybe 8 million to 12 million times normal. 1338 01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,160 What? 1339 01:02:59,190 --> 01:03:00,466 8 million to 12 million times normal. 1340 01:03:00,490 --> 01:03:02,060 – 8 to... – To 12 million. 1341 01:03:02,090 --> 01:03:04,800 The average human body's magnetic field... 1342 01:03:04,830 --> 01:03:06,160 ...we generate a magnetic... 1343 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,870 ...is measured in millionths of a gauss. 1344 01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:12,970 It's a 1-hertz... look at it. 1345 01:03:13,010 --> 01:03:16,710 It's like a... yeah, not a 1-hertz. 1346 01:03:16,740 --> 01:03:17,710 You see that? 1347 01:03:17,740 --> 01:03:20,540 Wow, interesting. 1348 01:03:20,580 --> 01:03:22,550 And yet, when I... move away from here... 1349 01:03:22,580 --> 01:03:27,380 ...to see if the space is affected. 1350 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:29,650 It stopped moving because he moved. 1351 01:03:29,690 --> 01:03:31,820 All of a sudden, something causes me... 1352 01:03:31,860 --> 01:03:33,290 ...to lunge at Dr. Taff, 1353 01:03:33,330 --> 01:03:35,560 ...and as I force myself to walk away, 1354 01:03:35,590 --> 01:03:37,800 ...realizing I may attack him, 1355 01:03:37,830 --> 01:03:42,570 ...my cameraman captures the device spiking again... 1356 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,740 ...at the same exact time as my hostile movement. 1357 01:03:52,340 --> 01:03:55,980 That thing just spiked when I did that. 1358 01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:57,620 That a dog? 1359 01:04:01,190 --> 01:04:03,020 What happened? 1360 01:04:03,060 --> 01:04:05,320 Do they have a dog next to us here? 1361 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,720 – A what? – A dog. 1362 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,990 – Is there a dog? – No, there's no dogs. 1363 01:04:09,030 --> 01:04:11,200 Then I just heard a, "Grough!" 1364 01:04:11,230 --> 01:04:13,860 You heard it here before. 1365 01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:15,700 Like a, "Ough!" 1366 01:04:15,730 --> 01:04:17,800 From over there... "Rowf." 1367 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,940 Assume it's a dog. 1368 01:04:18,970 --> 01:04:20,300 Where did you hear it? 1369 01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:22,870 Come from over here. 1370 01:04:22,910 --> 01:04:23,970 Just here. 1371 01:04:24,010 --> 01:04:26,110 "Ough." 1372 01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:28,550 I thought, well, there's a dog. 1373 01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:41,190 I heard dogs. 1374 01:04:41,230 --> 01:04:43,560 We have no animals. 1375 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,860 Something starts to happen to Dr. Taff... 1376 01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:50,770 ...after he and my camera operator hear the growl. 1377 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,470 And now I'm noticing a pattern... 1378 01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:53,980 ...of how people act when the house... 1379 01:04:54,010 --> 01:04:56,410 ...is starting to have an effect on them. 1380 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,010 – Oh, no. – What's wrong? 1381 01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,210 They appear lost in thought and confused. 1382 01:05:01,250 --> 01:05:04,250 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 1383 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:11,520 ♪ ♪ 1384 01:05:14,690 --> 01:05:16,660 Do you want to get out of here for a minute? 1385 01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:17,860 Are you okay? 1386 01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:18,860 Yeah. 1387 01:05:18,900 --> 01:05:20,730 'Cause you're... 1388 01:05:20,770 --> 01:05:24,800 Actually, I need something to drink, like water. 1389 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,170 Yeah, I just feel very... 1390 01:05:28,210 --> 01:05:32,040 ...yeah, I'm feeling dizzy or... 1391 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,056 ...I'm noticing that you keep shutting your eyes and swaying. 1392 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,056 Yeah, because I feel like I'm gonna fall backwards. 1393 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,080 I feel like I'm gonna pass out. 1394 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,920 Let me see, if I move... 1395 01:05:42,820 --> 01:05:43,990 Are you okay? 1396 01:05:44,020 --> 01:05:45,690 As we head upstairs, I go outside... 1397 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,690 ...to clear my mind from the house. 1398 01:05:49,730 --> 01:05:51,300 And at that time, I don't notice... 1399 01:05:51,330 --> 01:05:55,270 Dr. Taff becoming affected again. 1400 01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:57,000 Weeks after this investigation, 1401 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,000 ...we discover something disturbing... 1402 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,440 ...captured on this camera... 1403 01:06:00,470 --> 01:06:03,340 ...while he walks in a state of confusion... 1404 01:06:03,380 --> 01:06:05,680 ...towards the back hallway. 1405 01:06:12,950 --> 01:06:15,920 ( EERIE MUSIC ) 1406 01:06:15,950 --> 01:06:22,990 ♪ ♪ 1407 01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:33,100 The black anomaly appears in seven frames, 1408 01:06:33,140 --> 01:06:36,310 ...shooting at 24 frames per second. 1409 01:06:36,340 --> 01:06:39,610 One, two, three, four, 1410 01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:43,750 ...five, six, seven. 1411 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,950 Which means that when played at regular speed, 1412 01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:52,960 ...the anomaly manifests in a fraction of a second. 1413 01:06:52,990 --> 01:06:54,860 As Dr. Taff walks back, 1414 01:06:54,890 --> 01:06:56,890 ...he places his hand in the exact spot... 1415 01:06:56,930 --> 01:07:00,630 ...where the black mass just manifested off the wall, 1416 01:07:00,670 --> 01:07:04,440 ...at which time he immediately becomes affected again. 1417 01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:08,270 Oh, it's really bad in there. 1418 01:07:08,310 --> 01:07:12,310 That same sense of nausea, 1419 01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:14,210 ...like you're gonna throw up. 1420 01:07:14,250 --> 01:07:17,380 Reverse peristaltic action, very strong in there. 1421 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,620 I take the footage to Ed Wiebe, 1422 01:07:26,660 --> 01:07:30,590 ...who was a video engineer for NASA for 32 years. 1423 01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:32,760 Really increased the luminosity just a little bit, 1424 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,900 ...just to see some of the other detail on the object. 1425 01:07:35,930 --> 01:07:40,070 Prior to that, we can see that it's different intensities. 1426 01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:42,110 There's not the same intensity. 1427 01:07:42,140 --> 01:07:45,140 So we thought it was a hand or something like that... 1428 01:07:45,180 --> 01:07:46,280 ...from someone else, 1429 01:07:46,310 --> 01:07:48,150 ...say the cameraman, perhaps, 1430 01:07:48,180 --> 01:07:50,526 ...his hand wouldn't be broken up into different intensities. 1431 01:07:50,550 --> 01:07:52,120 It would all be one hand. 1432 01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:55,850 I'm 100% sure that is not the cameraman's hand. 1433 01:07:55,890 --> 01:07:58,420 You've got the regular shadow of the cameraman back here. 1434 01:07:58,460 --> 01:08:01,490 It's like a gray, very light gray. 1435 01:08:01,530 --> 01:08:03,860 But then, as the anomaly's happening, 1436 01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:07,360 ...there's this real dark band of shadow... 1437 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,630 ...all down in here. 1438 01:08:10,670 --> 01:08:13,800 We don't see it retract back into the wall. 1439 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,746 It's quite possible it could have entered the cameraman. 1440 01:08:15,770 --> 01:08:17,170 I don't know if that cameraman... 1441 01:08:17,210 --> 01:08:18,780 ...had any problems after this shoot. 1442 01:08:18,810 --> 01:08:20,180 As a matter of fact, 1443 01:08:20,210 --> 01:08:22,880 ...that cameraman did have problems. 1444 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:27,890 A little while later, he suddenly had to lie down. 1445 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,290 He then begins acting very strange, 1446 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,520 ...like he's confused. 1447 01:08:40,730 --> 01:08:45,770 No one sees him wander off into the basement alone. 1448 01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:50,440 ( OMINOUS MUSIC ) 1449 01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:57,720 ♪ ♪ 1450 01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:19,570 Later, we find the cameraman, Adam, 1451 01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:21,940 ...lying on his back in the back bedroom, 1452 01:09:21,970 --> 01:09:26,810 ...where Mika's murdered brother lived. 1453 01:09:26,850 --> 01:09:29,610 As we return to the hotel, 1454 01:09:29,650 --> 01:09:31,950 ...that same cameraman, Adam, 1455 01:09:31,980 --> 01:09:35,220 ...starts vomiting blood in my bathroom. 1456 01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:36,890 He then leaves my room... 1457 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,920 ...and begins screaming my name in a strange voice. 1458 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,530 We start rolling with our cameras. 1459 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,460 – What's wrong with him? – Where'd he go? 1460 01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:50,630 Film. 1461 01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:55,540 – Wait. – Shh. 1462 01:09:58,410 --> 01:10:00,580 He's calling security. 1463 01:10:17,230 --> 01:10:20,860 ( ELEVATOR DOOR OPENS ) 1464 01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:22,630 (WHISPERING) Where did he go? 1465 01:10:22,670 --> 01:10:25,940 ( OMINOUS MUSIC ) 1466 01:10:28,110 --> 01:10:30,540 Come here, you fucker! 1467 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,650 Bitch! 1468 01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,650 Whatever is affecting him, 1469 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,550 ...he's taunting it to do more. 1470 01:10:39,580 --> 01:10:42,050 I'm right near that fucker! 1471 01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:45,060 ( OMINOUS MUSIC ) 1472 01:10:45,090 --> 01:10:51,730 ♪ ♪ 1473 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,000 ( SHOUTING INDISTINCTLY ) 1474 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,010 ( BANGING ) 1475 01:11:07,410 --> 01:11:09,250 Dude, what's wrong? 1476 01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:12,980 Fuck that shit, fuck that shit. 1477 01:11:13,020 --> 01:11:14,020 Adam, what's... 1478 01:11:14,050 --> 01:11:15,620 Not gonna fuck with me like that. 1479 01:11:15,650 --> 01:11:17,390 What's in the elevator? 1480 01:11:17,420 --> 01:11:18,560 Nothing, nothing. 1481 01:11:18,590 --> 01:11:20,020 It's a bitch. 1482 01:11:20,060 --> 01:11:22,990 If there's anything here, it's a bitch. 1483 01:11:25,730 --> 01:11:28,930 You hear, fucker? 1484 01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:30,930 Huh? 1485 01:11:30,970 --> 01:11:32,800 What is wrong with him? 1486 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,486 Have you ever seen him like that before, Jay? 1487 01:11:34,510 --> 01:11:35,570 No, never. 1488 01:11:35,610 --> 01:11:36,570 How long have you known him? 1489 01:11:36,610 --> 01:11:38,580 Years. 1490 01:11:41,150 --> 01:11:44,110 That was the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life. 1491 01:11:47,950 --> 01:11:49,850 ( ELEVATOR DOOR OPENS ) 1492 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,770 (WHISPERING) Crazy. 1493 01:12:07,340 --> 01:12:09,770 – Security's coming. – Yeah, I know. 1494 01:12:20,350 --> 01:12:22,120 ( ELEVATOR DOOR OPENS ) 1495 01:12:22,150 --> 01:12:23,820 Adam, let's go, 1496 01:12:23,860 --> 01:12:26,020 ...before security comes. 1497 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,040 At this same moment, two floors above us, 1498 01:12:41,070 --> 01:12:45,310 Dr. Taff is also experiencing something strange. 1499 01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:46,840 Got back to the hotel, 1500 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,710 ...and I had a strange sense of anxiety, irritability. 1501 01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:53,150 I'm sleeping, and suddenly, 1502 01:12:53,190 --> 01:12:55,390 ...not in the room, in my left ear, 1503 01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:59,460 I hear, like, a really loud bell. 1504 01:12:59,490 --> 01:13:01,160 Jump out of bed. 1505 01:13:01,190 --> 01:13:02,360 "What was that?" 1506 01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:04,560 I finally fell over, 1507 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,830 ...and I wake up, and I'm on the ground. 1508 01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:08,370 When Dr. Taff gets up, 1509 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,440 ...he realizes he has blood in both of his ears. 1510 01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:15,310 Meanwhile, back in the room with Adam... 1511 01:13:15,340 --> 01:13:16,440 What's happening? 1512 01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:17,440 What do you feel? 1513 01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:19,540 You're fine in here. 1514 01:13:19,580 --> 01:13:20,740 Just, all of a sudden, 1515 01:13:20,780 --> 01:13:22,910 ...like, felt like something... 1516 01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,050 ...was stabbing me in my stomach. 1517 01:13:37,460 --> 01:13:40,400 Do you think that shit's making you puke and all that? 1518 01:13:40,430 --> 01:13:42,030 No, I don't. 1519 01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:45,370 Just, guys, can you just cut the cameras, man? 1520 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,970 Seriously, fuckin'... 1521 01:13:49,540 --> 01:13:52,440 Little shit like that, it's not gonna fuckin'... 1522 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,640 You understand how this thing works, though. 1523 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,750 It's trying to draw you in, piss you off, and... 1524 01:13:58,780 --> 01:14:01,920 Like, that's been happening the whole time we come here, 1525 01:14:01,950 --> 01:14:04,420 ...is these little pokes at us, these little things. 1526 01:14:04,460 --> 01:14:07,960 Honestly, I know, but it's like, 1527 01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:10,530 ...why the fuck would it fuck with me? 1528 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,530 God, dude, I thought you saw a dead body in the fuckin'... 1529 01:14:13,570 --> 01:14:17,930 I thought I was gonna open it up and see a mutilated... 1530 01:14:17,970 --> 01:14:18,940 What'd you say? 1531 01:14:18,970 --> 01:14:20,270 There was a face. 1532 01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:23,010 Could you get any details or anything? 1533 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:28,040 I think you know what I saw, bro. 1534 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,250 I had never told my crew or anyone else... 1535 01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,880 ...about the nightmare I had... 1536 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,590 ...a week before I bought the house, 1537 01:14:35,620 --> 01:14:37,390 ...where I saw the face of a goat man... 1538 01:14:37,420 --> 01:14:40,990 ...exhaling black smoke into my mouth. 1539 01:14:41,030 --> 01:14:43,790 Like, I shouldn't be really amped up right now. 1540 01:14:43,830 --> 01:14:44,860 I need to calm down. 1541 01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:47,030 I'm sorry. 1542 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,230 Scared the shit out of me. 1543 01:14:50,270 --> 01:14:51,840 That scared the fucking shit... 1544 01:14:51,870 --> 01:14:53,116 I'm not gonna lie to you right now. 1545 01:14:53,140 --> 01:14:56,910 When that fucking door opened... 1546 01:14:56,940 --> 01:14:59,340 For a second, I fucking screamed... 1547 01:14:59,380 --> 01:15:00,580 ...like a little girl. 1548 01:15:00,610 --> 01:15:02,510 Did you hear me call for Zak? 1549 01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:04,850 I was like, fuck, dude, this guy... 1550 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,320 Yo, it doesn't want me. 1551 01:15:08,350 --> 01:15:09,120 It wants him? 1552 01:15:09,150 --> 01:15:11,960 Yeah, it wants you. 1553 01:15:13,890 --> 01:15:15,530 That shit scared me like... 1554 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:16,790 ...it wasn't just, like... 1555 01:15:16,830 --> 01:15:18,430 ...it was like...the thing... 1556 01:15:18,460 --> 01:15:20,660 ...the first thing that I thought was, 1557 01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:23,670 ...this is real. 1558 01:15:23,700 --> 01:15:25,070 Because I have to be honest. 1559 01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,070 Like, up until that moment, right there, 1560 01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:29,470 I didn't believe any of this, like, 100%. 1561 01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:34,110 There's something, like, touching my hand right now. 1562 01:15:34,150 --> 01:15:35,780 What's it feel like? 1563 01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:37,480 It's cold. 1564 01:15:42,890 --> 01:15:44,920 You got... 1565 01:15:53,630 --> 01:15:55,600 Whoa, whoa. 1566 01:15:55,630 --> 01:15:57,000 He has a field around him. 1567 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,540 Come over here. 1568 01:15:58,570 --> 01:15:59,940 I felt it on my arm here. 1569 01:15:59,970 --> 01:16:01,000 You're a fucking bitch. 1570 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,170 Do something better. 1571 01:16:02,210 --> 01:16:03,440 Do something better than that, 1572 01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:04,540 ...you fucking bitch. 1573 01:16:04,580 --> 01:16:05,940 Feel around him. 1574 01:16:05,980 --> 01:16:08,680 That just made my arm hair fucking stand up. 1575 01:16:08,710 --> 01:16:10,480 Do something better than that! 1576 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,450 I'm sorry. 1577 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:14,650 These arm hairs just crawled up, 1578 01:16:14,690 --> 01:16:17,120 ...like, backed up off of him. 1579 01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:21,590 Like a towel out of the dryer, it's all staticky. 1580 01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:26,860 ( CREEPY MUSIC ) 1581 01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:34,140 ♪ ♪ 1582 01:16:35,340 --> 01:16:37,410 I'm gonna find you. 1583 01:16:39,380 --> 01:16:41,440 A short time after returning home, 1584 01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:46,320 Dr. Taff's organs begin to shut down one by one. 1585 01:16:46,350 --> 01:16:48,120 Being in overall good health, 1586 01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:51,890 ...the doctors cannot explain the cause of this. 1587 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:53,390 So they started telling me... 1588 01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:56,190 ...my organs are shutting down and failing. 1589 01:16:56,230 --> 01:16:58,030 All my organs started shutting down. 1590 01:16:58,060 --> 01:17:00,230 My prostate, massive infection. 1591 01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:02,870 My kidneys, my liver, my bladder was infected. 1592 01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:04,270 My whole body was failing. 1593 01:17:04,300 --> 01:17:06,840 But, I mean, it was collectively. 1594 01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:08,046 It wasn't, like, a little here. 1595 01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:09,170 Boom-boom-boom-boom-boom. 1596 01:17:09,210 --> 01:17:10,610 It was like a cascade. 1597 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,710 Boom-boom-boom-boom. 1598 01:17:11,740 --> 01:17:12,810 Boof. 1599 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,510 I felt nauseous and dizzy. 1600 01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:17,280 Went back to the hotel later on, and I fell, 1601 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:18,450 ...and then I passed out. 1602 01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:20,620 I started to shake really bad. 1603 01:17:20,650 --> 01:17:22,190 And that's atypical. 1604 01:17:22,220 --> 01:17:23,690 "Did you ever go back to the house?" 1605 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,060 No? 1606 01:17:25,090 --> 01:17:26,536 I said the man who hired me went back. 1607 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,520 He got sick. 1608 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:28,560 The cameraman was there, 1609 01:17:28,590 --> 01:17:29,860 ...and he got really sick, 1610 01:17:29,890 --> 01:17:30,976 ...and I saw it right in front of me. 1611 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,360 And he got sicker than I did. 1612 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,370 Started shaking, nauseous, kept throwing up. 1613 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,230 It's all happening... the problem is, 1614 01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:39,270 ...it's all happening at the same time. 1615 01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:40,870 That's what makes it weird. 1616 01:17:40,910 --> 01:17:43,710 So, you know, the problem is, 1617 01:17:43,740 --> 01:17:47,980 ...why are my organs all starting to shut down simultaneously? 1618 01:17:48,010 --> 01:17:49,950 This place might have had a more dynamic... 1619 01:17:49,980 --> 01:17:51,510 ...and dramatic effect on me, 1620 01:17:51,550 --> 01:17:53,450 ...but in a way I didn't understand... 1621 01:17:53,490 --> 01:17:56,220 ...until it all slammed me together. 1622 01:17:56,250 --> 01:18:02,260 If my theory is correct that my body shutting down... 1623 01:18:02,290 --> 01:18:04,090 ...is a result of being in the demon house... 1624 01:18:04,130 --> 01:18:05,330 ...just for several hours, 1625 01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,300 ...that's long-term effects. 1626 01:18:07,330 --> 01:18:08,930 I was only there for a few hours. 1627 01:18:08,970 --> 01:18:10,900 If I'd stayed there overnight, 1628 01:18:10,940 --> 01:18:12,276 ...given what's going on with me now, 1629 01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:13,800 I'd probably be dead by now. 1630 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,370 Who knows what's going on there? 1631 01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:18,810 You know, beside the paranormal phenomena, 1632 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,826 ...there may be other elements that are tied into it... 1633 01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:23,650 ...that explain this in ways we don't yet understand. 1634 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,450 And what happened with you at the house, 1635 01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:28,890 ...what happened with the cameraman at the house, 1636 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,220 ...this is the tip of the iceberg. 1637 01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:34,360 So this may provide incredible new definition... 1638 01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:37,230 ...for what is going on in these cases. 1639 01:18:37,260 --> 01:18:38,760 This is a life-changing experience, 1640 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,100 ...because I never thought this would happen to me. 1641 01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:45,470 After the night of Adam's meltdown, 1642 01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:49,310 ...his behavior continues to be disturbing. 1643 01:18:49,340 --> 01:18:51,210 The very next day, he tells me to go... 1644 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,840 ...into the bathroom of the house, 1645 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,450 ...to smash the mirror, 1646 01:18:55,480 --> 01:18:59,950 ...and to slit my throat with the broken glass. 1647 01:18:59,980 --> 01:19:01,480 He's no longer himself. 1648 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,220 And after a couple days of this... 1649 01:19:03,250 --> 01:19:04,690 Come here, you fucker! 1650 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,660 I have no choice but to remove him... 1651 01:19:06,690 --> 01:19:08,190 ...from my crew. 1652 01:19:08,230 --> 01:19:10,260 Jay, my other camera guy, 1653 01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:15,170 ...tries to get Adam some help, but he refuses. 1654 01:19:31,650 --> 01:19:33,480 ( DRILL WHIRRING ) 1655 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,220 With the effects of the house... 1656 01:19:35,250 --> 01:19:38,290 ...seeming to take down members of my crew now, 1657 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,860 I decide to accelerate the situation... 1658 01:19:40,890 --> 01:19:44,190 ...by boarding myself up in the house... 1659 01:19:44,230 --> 01:19:46,460 ...sealed up, alone, overnight... 1660 01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:48,360 ...and let whatever may be haunting it... 1661 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,500 ...take its best shot at me. 1662 01:19:51,540 --> 01:19:53,640 I know this sounds stupid, 1663 01:19:53,670 --> 01:19:56,040 ...but the investigator inside of me... 1664 01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:58,810 ...wants to experience it. 1665 01:20:03,050 --> 01:20:05,580 Been a long time. 1666 01:20:05,620 --> 01:20:06,580 I'm okay. 1667 01:20:06,620 --> 01:20:11,590 I want to seal myself inside here. 1668 01:20:11,620 --> 01:20:15,660 I'm gonna start in about 15 minutes. 1669 01:20:15,690 --> 01:20:16,890 Yeah. 1670 01:20:16,930 --> 01:20:20,200 The last piece of plywood goes on that front door. 1671 01:20:20,230 --> 01:20:21,830 And that last piece of plywood... 1672 01:20:21,870 --> 01:20:25,100 ...is gonna get screwed in with me inside. 1673 01:20:32,610 --> 01:20:34,580 – No. – Okay, all right. 1674 01:20:34,610 --> 01:20:36,410 That's fine. 1675 01:20:49,230 --> 01:20:52,200 ( CREEPY ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC ) 1676 01:20:52,230 --> 01:20:54,200 ♪ ♪ 1677 01:20:54,230 --> 01:20:56,230 ( BEEPING SOUNDS ) 1678 01:21:30,770 --> 01:21:32,000 ( BEEPING SOUNDS ) 1679 01:22:25,290 --> 01:22:27,420 ( EXHALES ) 1680 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,630 I have a phone. 1681 01:22:34,670 --> 01:22:39,570 My crew, so I can talk to them, text them. 1682 01:22:50,250 --> 01:22:54,250 ( BEEPING SOUNDS ) 1683 01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:23,750 Pretty weird feeling, 1684 01:23:23,780 --> 01:23:27,620 ...just knowing that you're completely... 1685 01:23:27,650 --> 01:23:30,590 ...sealed inside a house, 1686 01:23:30,620 --> 01:23:33,890 ...let alone this house. 1687 01:23:33,930 --> 01:23:36,490 And I'm really afraid to turn that light out. 1688 01:23:36,530 --> 01:23:41,630 That's, like, my safety chain right there, that light. 1689 01:23:46,570 --> 01:23:48,940 Man, I don't want to. 1690 01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:39,880 ( DISTANT INDISTINCT SPEECH ) 1691 01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:43,650 I just heard a... 1692 01:25:49,460 --> 01:25:51,490 ( EXHALES ) 1693 01:25:51,530 --> 01:25:55,300 I heard a female voice... 1694 01:25:55,330 --> 01:25:57,230 ...in the kitchen. 1695 01:25:57,270 --> 01:25:59,340 ( TAPE REWINDING ) 1696 01:25:59,370 --> 01:26:00,900 ( DISTANT INDISTINCT SPEECH ) 1697 01:26:34,270 --> 01:26:36,010 ( EXHALES ) 1698 01:26:45,550 --> 01:26:48,790 ( SOFT CLATTERING ) 1699 01:27:01,530 --> 01:27:03,670 ( LOW GROAN ) 1700 01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:09,010 ( LOW GROAN ) 1701 01:27:19,450 --> 01:27:21,920 Get away from me. 1702 01:27:21,950 --> 01:27:23,790 Get away. 1703 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,630 Back the fuck up. 1704 01:27:36,670 --> 01:27:38,500 ( INTENSE CREEPY MUSIC ) 1705 01:27:38,540 --> 01:27:40,400 ( THROWN OBJECT CLATTERS ) 1706 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:47,680 ♪ ♪ 1707 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,260 Oh, my God, my eyes. 1708 01:28:03,290 --> 01:28:04,590 ( GROANING ) 1709 01:28:04,630 --> 01:28:08,000 Ow, fuck. 1710 01:28:08,030 --> 01:28:09,000 Fuck. 1711 01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:09,870 ( CLATTERING ) 1712 01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:11,130 Get me the fuck out of here! 1713 01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:14,340 ( VOICE ECHOING, WIND WHISTLING ) 1714 01:28:21,010 --> 01:28:23,650 The following day, my eyes begin to cross, 1715 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,480 ...resulting in double vision. 1716 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,950 I develop a serious eye condition called diplopia. 1717 01:28:30,990 --> 01:28:33,120 After multiple neurological tests... 1718 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,790 ...conducted in Las Vegas and California, 1719 01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:37,990 ...doctors are unable to determine the cause... 1720 01:28:38,030 --> 01:28:40,100 ...for this sudden affliction. 1721 01:28:40,130 --> 01:28:43,200 I am now forced to wear prism glasses, 1722 01:28:43,230 --> 01:28:46,840 ...as my condition is now permanent. 1723 01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:49,910 Corrective surgery done in both my eyes... 1724 01:28:49,940 --> 01:28:53,880 ...runs the risk of total blindness. 1725 01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:57,080 ( ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC ) 1726 01:28:57,110 --> 01:29:04,150 ♪ ♪ 1727 01:29:05,590 --> 01:29:07,320 Shortly after his interview, 1728 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:11,390 Kevin Ammons was kicked out of his family's apartment. 1729 01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:15,730 They claim something dark transferred from me to him. 1730 01:29:24,910 --> 01:29:26,980 Ever since his meltdown, 1731 01:29:27,010 --> 01:29:31,880 Adam refuses to speak with me or about the house. 1732 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,120 It appears that the time he spent in the house... 1733 01:29:34,150 --> 01:29:38,890 ...is still having an effect on him. 1734 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:44,160 He even got the numbers "666" tattooed on both his hands, 1735 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,830 ...the same place he'd felt the dark energy touch him... 1736 01:29:46,860 --> 01:29:48,400 ...in the hotel room. 1737 01:29:48,430 --> 01:29:52,400 There's something touching my hand right now. 1738 01:29:58,580 --> 01:30:02,240 Dr. Barry Taff continues to have health problems. 1739 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,250 Doctors are still searching for the cause... 1740 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,050 ...of his mysterious organ failure. 1741 01:30:10,420 --> 01:30:12,920 I'm reminded of the toll the house has taken... 1742 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,230 ...on nearly everyone who's visited there. 1743 01:30:16,260 --> 01:30:19,860 Valerie Washington moving away and seeking therapy; 1744 01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:23,870 ...the other CPS case manager who suffered motorcycle burns... 1745 01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:26,300 ...and a broken hand, ankles, and ribs... 1746 01:30:26,340 --> 01:30:28,770 ...shortly after being in the house; 1747 01:30:28,810 --> 01:30:32,010 ...the home inspector who was diagnosed with cancer; 1748 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,180 Father Mike's bike accident; 1749 01:30:34,210 --> 01:30:37,610 Captain Austin's fall and rush to the ER; 1750 01:30:37,650 --> 01:30:39,980 Erica's suicide attempt; 1751 01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:43,490 Adam's meltdown and the aftermath in his life; 1752 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,520 ...even Chief Miller claimed that something... 1753 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,360 ...may have followed him home from the house one night. 1754 01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:50,430 Something came back with him. 1755 01:30:50,460 --> 01:30:52,130 I don't know if it was that demon, 1756 01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,400 ...but something came, and I don't want it back. 1757 01:30:54,430 --> 01:30:58,730 And finally, the permanent damage to my eyes. 1758 01:30:58,770 --> 01:31:03,970 So I decide it's time for the house to go away. 1759 01:31:04,010 --> 01:31:06,980 ( CRYSTALLINE VOCAL MUSIC ) 1760 01:31:07,010 --> 01:31:14,250 ♪ ♪ 1761 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,820 This was a portal to Hell. 1762 01:31:17,860 --> 01:31:25,090 ♪ ♪ 1763 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:36,310 I was told not to even go in the house. 1764 01:31:36,340 --> 01:31:42,380 ♪ ♪ 1765 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,320 ( EERIE ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC ) 1766 01:31:49,350 --> 01:31:51,120 Most of the house was hauled away... 1767 01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:55,160 ...to be buried in a landfill. 1768 01:31:55,190 --> 01:31:56,560 I wanted to make sure the house... 1769 01:31:56,590 --> 01:31:59,960 ...never harmed anyone else again. 1770 01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:06,770 But as an investigator and a collector, 1771 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,810 I couldn't just let it all go. 1772 01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,810 ( CREEPY MUSIC ) 1773 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:18,210 ♪ ♪ 1774 01:32:18,250 --> 01:32:20,180 So I kept some of it, 1775 01:32:20,220 --> 01:32:26,960 ...including the basement stairs and some of the dirt. 1776 01:32:26,990 --> 01:32:29,190 Even though the house is gone, 1777 01:32:29,230 --> 01:32:32,460 ...a police officer told me that people keep showing up... 1778 01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:36,300 ...and doing Satanic rituals on the empty lot. 1779 01:32:36,330 --> 01:32:42,040 ♪ ♪ 1780 01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:45,240 Like I said at the beginning, 1781 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,540 ...this story is cursed. 1782 01:32:56,750 --> 01:32:59,720 ( SPARE PIANO MUSIC ) 1783 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:07,000 ♪ ♪ 1784 01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,150 ( EERIE RUMBLING )